Book 4 - Page 165

Maybe they'll get you in the head

Book 4 - Page 165
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greycat wrote:
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Is it TV's turn? I've lost track.

As far as I know, it still is. Unless having your heir-less Ruler taken prisoner affects this.


It's still TV's turn until all of their units are out of move, the natural end of turn, or Caesar is croaked. (According to Book of Patches, Chapter 11, The Book of Retcon)
Jay103 wrote:
JadedDragoon wrote:
Jay103 wrote:
I'm not sure I like the transformation of Caesar from total badass (like during Parson's interrogation) to.. this. If he snaps out of it by end of turn, I'll forgive him.


Well, I wasn't too keen on him beating a defenseless woman unconscious. I'm all for equality and all... but Ceasar strikes me as more old-fashioned than that. Seems really out of character. But he's having a shitty ass day... so he's cracking... it's not really a surprise.


True.. I'm just not sure I see the transition from before to this abject despair. I'd think if someone like him cracked, it would be in the direction of ultraviolence.


Yet again, he lost his love, his king and his beloved Chief Warlord position in very little time, he is confused about the situation and who is the traitor of which side, Parson Gotti just disappeared...
One point here might be to show that people who are good in their tasks are not always happily promoted: a good stabber doesn't make a great warlord, a good player is no guaranteed trainer... Although, I might confess, I was also surprised / disappointed by such a desperate feeling in Caesar Borgata, but some of his past story with Bunny showed us a vampire with feelings, so I'm not sure it's entirely out of character. I waited till the end the page for a sudden brutal reaction from him, I'll wait till next (or any other) update...
Jay103 wrote:
JadedDragoon wrote:
Jay103 wrote:
I'm not sure I like the transformation of Caesar from total badass (like during Parson's interrogation) to.. this. If he snaps out of it by end of turn, I'll forgive him.


Well, I wasn't too keen on him beating a defenseless woman unconscious. I'm all for equality and all... but Ceasar strikes me as more old-fashioned than that. Seems really out of character. But he's having a shitty ass day... so he's cracking... it's not really a surprise.


True.. I'm just not sure I see the transition from before to this abject despair. I'd think if someone like him cracked, it would be in the direction of ultraviolence.


Actually there not being a transition is kinda in-character for him. Caesar is a stoic. Stoicism can be somewhat summed up by the idea that "I can't control what happens to me, I can only control how I respond to it." A stoic accepts that bad shit _will_ happen. And it _will_ suck. And the only thing they can do about that is try not to let it beat them. But the problem with stoicism is that it makes people who practice it tend to bottle stuff up... they don't reach out for help... they don't let their weakness show. And if it turns out they don't have the strength to handle it they eventually hit the breaking point and go from appearing to be fine to a complete wreck almost instantly.

And the collar makes ultraviolence impossible... so despair is pretty much all that's left. Powerlessness does really twisted things to people. I can tell you that from experience.
Zebio wrote:

Yet again, he lost his love, his king and his beloved Chief Warlord position in very little time, he is confused about the situation and who is the traitor of which side, Parson Gotti just disappeared...

... and his tower just came to life and started telling him what to do. (And when he didn't obey right away, he got strangled.)
roninpanda wrote:
It also knows all about the dollamancy guns and likely is trying to make Bill trigger contract penalties.

And drain most of his mana.
Notice that the tower uses "die," not "croak."
dwp222 wrote:
Notice that the tower uses "die," not "croak."


Yeah, are they aware of stupidworld or they're immune to some of Erfworld's rules?
Fran wrote:
dwp222 wrote:
Notice that the tower uses "die," not "croak."


Yeah, are they aware of stupidworld or they're immune to some of Erfworld's rules?

I think there's more to it than either. The towers also seem to not only understand the concept of motherhood, but think of it more naturally than typical popping.
Fran wrote:
dwp222 wrote:
Notice that the tower uses "die," not "croak."


Yeah, are they aware of stupidworld or they're immune to some of Erfworld's rules?


Or just really vulgar individuals by Erfworld standards.
JadedDragoon wrote:
Fran wrote:
dwp222 wrote:
Notice that the tower uses "die," not "croak."


Yeah, are they aware of stupidworld or they're immune to some of Erfworld's rules?


Or just really vulgar individuals by Erfworld standards.

I'm leaning on the Vulgar thing.

I don't think they're aware of Stupidworld since Jed didn't know where Parson was heading when Parson being flung above the sky. As for an immunity to Erfworld's rules: Back in Book 0 and 1, Judy and Parson were able to say "Die" and "Kill" despite being still affected by the Boop-Curse filter. Die and kill weren't censored words, so it just implies that most Erfworlders weren't popped with the habbit of using the word "Die". Except for perhaps luckamancers, when they are using the singular of dice.