Book 5 - Prologue 31

A fifth of what now?

Book 5 - Prologue 31
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visual echo wrote:
infiniplex wrote:

From another direction, Noah says that the temple was "no thing that the Titans had ever intended to stand in the world".


That makes me feel like the temples are equivalent to DLC. Or maybe fanmade mods?


Simple, they are hacks.
visual echo wrote:
infiniplex wrote:

From another direction, Noah says that the temple was "no thing that the Titans had ever intended to stand in the world".


That makes me feel like the temples are equivalent to DLC. Or maybe fanmade mods?


DLC's or fan made mods would be something outside of Erfworld, so still an equivalent of titans. They would just be new Titans who create things after the original ones do, and I don't think that's what Noah is referring.

I think we have been given enough information to know how they were created by just using mechanics we have been given previous information about. The Great Minds did the same sort thing to the towers as Wanda's Halfaton team did when trying to create living golems. But towers are able to create life (they pop new units all the time), so once you have a tower golem you can command it to pop life into itself. The Minds created the towers after being inspired by Parson's rule breaking. They didn't just awaken them.
People have been comparing Sugar to the US military. But Sugar is based on a real old idol. I think we should be thinking in terms of ancient militant like conquerors in history . Such as Sparta, Alexander the Great, Genghis Khan, the romans, Chinese conquerors etc.

Sugar may have an overlapping personality profile with someone like Julius Caesar who took a smaller nation and made it bigger.
Coming into a situation without understanding it and wanting to change it is a bad idea. Also, I think side N is doing rather well and seems to have deep reasources, so long as the apple cart remains upright.

I'm fascinated by the idea that the towers, sorry, TEMPLES, are the oposites of their leaders. Billing a lack in them.
infiniplex wrote:
spriteless wrote:
I wonder, are the temples part of another game? Like in software you can build one game off of another's engine, just never have the code call for features you don't need. Or, more morbidly, did the Titans come to a world that had already been destroyed, and set in motion a new game on the remains? Or, more awesomely, all the players of the last game peaced out and ascended for a better plane of existance. Or became like Titans themselves.

1/0 comic proposed a twist on that last idea. If the universe is cyclic, and people can ascend to Titanhood, then they have already done so. Future versions of Parson, Charlie, and whoever else are up there right now, possibly working to ensure their own ascensions. Or, if they are still fighting, they may be trying to help their respective sides. This yields a new understanding of retconjuration: changing the world on your second time through.

From another direction, Noah says that the temple was "no thing that the Titans had ever intended to stand in the world". This makes me wonder it it was supposed to be somewhere else. Hellabad was described as "a place of infinite wrongness, where everything around you clashed with who you were and what you wanted, a place where you simply did not belong". Given that (Erf) temples are always the opposite of their rulers, I can see a similarity. On the other hand, I can also imagine a well-aligned temple in the City of Heroes, watching over the blessed and immediately providing them with anything they want/need.


So you could say that with all of the temples awakening we're looking at Hellabad on Erf?
paskal wrote:
Jaxad0127 wrote:


Given that one of the sides that would be most interested in owning Nestleý's capital site is Charlsecomm, that MK civil war isn't too far fetched.


Also remember the lonesome Archon who was observing something important in the woods. Did we ever told what it was or can I assume it is Nestly


When was the archon?
The towers arent DLC or Hacks. They are exploits. Parson and DeIssac created using the rules as written. Sometimes your player base finds a way to use your game in a way you didn't intend.
But whether they are dlc or hacks or exploits, it doesn't answer if the Titans are ascended characters. Or what form the world took, if it was there, before the Titans made it Erfworld. Or if they copied a foundation from another world. Or if their is another connection between Erfworld and a world where the local War Gods make sense.

Although, I'm not getting anywhere with this existential speculation. Besides the Temples seeming out of place in Erfworld, but like they would be in place elsewhere, there's not much evidence anyways. It's less actionable than, like, studying gravity waves to search for parallel universes in Stupidworld Space.
paskal wrote:
Also remember the lonesome Archon who was observing something important in the woods. Did we ever told what it was or can I assume it is Nestly


The lonely Archon was Eleanor? https://wiki.erfworld.com/Eleanor

(couldn't find one in the woods.)
Absolutely loving where the storyline is going and how it is getting there. Thank you Rob and team!