Book 5 - Prologue 27

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Book 5 - Prologue 27
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I suspect that the Hippymancer commune is not as benign as we have been led to believe.

Partly because of Book 5 - Prologue 17, where Noah needs permission from the Glade to turn to Nestly. Or at least that's what I got from the contract. Also note that the contract binds all hippymancers, even though only Annie Oakleaf had to sign it. She is unilaterally able to impose requirements on them. And Paige mentions Noah "cavort[ing] with his hippymancer harem". That is probably just her manner of speaking, but could indicate the level of authority Noah used to have.

Partly because all the hippymancers are part of the Commune, even though the florists are naturally rich and the date-a-mancers are naturally poor. Why would all the barbarian florists continue to support that?

And lastly because almost every faction in Erfworld has turned out to be nastier than they first seemed. Goblin Knob started nasty, and now they look like one of the nicest. Jetstone turned out to be extreme royalist. Charlie turned out to be an evil manipulator. Haffaton used peace magic to kill people under truce and/or to shatter their minds. The Great Minds rip apart the souls of people who defy them, and ignore their own rules when they feel like it. And we already know that the hippymancers are scheming to break the fundamental order of the world (or at least Janis is).

My suspicion is that the Hippymancer Commune owns its casters, or something similar. The Grand Abbies (especially Annie Oakleaf, who seems to be on top) have ruler-like authority over the others. Using signamancy, they have built something close to a barbarian Side, where "free" casters trade loyalty for guaranteed upkeep. And hoining it probably isn't exactly voluntary. It doesn't look that way because a) hippymancy is pretty laid-back and b) they don't want it to.

Side Note: We have seen non-hippymancer casters with gardens before. Sizemore used to help out with them.
Book 2 - Text Updates 001 wrote:
Everyone needed a wall built, a garden tilled, a well dug, a foundation excavated.
Barbarian Florists continue to support Date-a-mancers because their credo is "Peace, Love, and Harmony?" Letting your community members die isn't very loving.
So this Florist wanted Wanda executed right? Why was that again? I thought she was vital the Hippie plan. Maybe Janis didn't tell him the whole story...?
Ah, finally it dawns on me how Noah can get the word "god" out of these towers.

Polytheism.

Literally! I had a thought of allied sides gifting each other with the smaller figurines of their own temple's.

Also, the whole "god of war" thing, being a "devotee" to an ideal rather than "the god over that ideal itself", that changes things IMO.

I also think that Carnymancers have a hard time gardening because, well, they cheat. It's nigh impossible to cheat at gardening, you are either doing the work to make the garden grow, or you aren't, it's hard to cheat that. True, it's POSSIBLE to cheat at it, but your results are going to be less than optimal, and certainly less than what you wanted.

And that's the biggest weakness with cheating, you get hooked on it, you start seeing "cheats" everywhere you go and soon, all you know is how to cheat, doing things the honest way becomes a thin(k)g of the past.

Sugar (tower/temple) wrote:
"Conquest is broadly considered to be fun." The high-pitched, officious little voice was insistent.


High pitched... wait... why do I suddenly think of Suger's voice being like some kind of voice simulator text-to-speech program?

Were there any sci-fi movies with a high-pitched AI warmachine... what was WOPR's voice again?
Arci wrote:
Sugar (tower/temple) wrote:
"Conquest is broadly considered to be fun." The high-pitched, officious little voice was insistent.
High pitched... wait... why do I suddenly think of Suger's voice being like some kind of voice simulator text-to-speech program?

"High-pitched" and "officious" are what made me think of C-3PO. I mentioned that in another thread, and someone pointed out C-3PX. (I'm not a big enough Star Wars fan to know that character.)
greycat wrote:
Arci wrote:
Sugar (tower/temple) wrote:
"Conquest is broadly considered to be fun." The high-pitched, officious little voice was insistent.
High pitched... wait... why do I suddenly think of Suger's voice being like some kind of voice simulator text-to-speech program?

"High-pitched" and "officious" are what made me think of C-3PO. I mentioned that in another thread, and someone pointed out C-3PX. (I'm not a big enough Star Wars fan to know that character.)

Don't worry about it, I've been a Star Wars fan for... well, let's call it a "Jojo's:Early Interest" thing. Anyway, C-3PX is an Extended Universe character, and there's so many of them that it is no exaggeration to say "nobody's heard of them". Because I sure haven't heard of him before.

IG88, 8D88, and a whole bunch of characters from various places in the SW-EU.
Brother Mirtillo wrote:

Citizen Alan wrote:
I can't stop thinking about poor Annie. I really hope there's a scene where she and Parson meet up and it's revealed to him how distraught she is that her Signomancy gives her an obsessive attraction to guns but she's a Hippiemancer and doesn't want to become a killer. To which he replies: "Okay, then just shoot the gun out of the other guy's hand." To which everyone replies: "Lolwhat?"

...lolwhat indeed.

I never did finish watching Blazing Saddles. Perhaps I should -- it might come in handy here.


This comment series made me think of another form of the name 'Annie Oakley': In trap shooting, its the name of a game situated around around something also called Buddy Shooting. Simple explanation, a line is formed with all the participants. People go down the line and start shooting at the clay pigeons. If someone misses, the next person in line has a chance to shoot the pigeon. If the next person hits the pigeon, the person before them is out. This continues until only one person remains, and that person is the winner.

It might indicate how Annie Oakley could use Hippiemancy with guns: Shooting missed projectiles out of the air, and her Hippiemancer powers might have a way to remove shooters who miss targets from play.
If he yanks the string, can he pull juice from the source?
re: string yanking

Depending on how long it is and how tightly Sugar is holding on to it, I can see Noah's action drastically changing their relationship in one of two ways...

It'll either drastically increase the tension between them, or Sugar will suddenly be giving Noah a lot more slack.
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re: string yanking

Depending on how long it is and how tightly Sugar is holding on to it, I can see Noah's action drastically changing their relationship in one of two ways...

It'll either drastically increase the tension between them, or Sugar will suddenly be giving Noah a lot more slack.



...or he will find himself a barbarian.

Ken D.