Book 5 - Prologue 22

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Book 5 - Prologue 22
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strange7person wrote:
greycat wrote:
I imagine C-3PO if he's been reprogrammed to conquer the galaxy instead of translate languages and follow diplomatic protocols.

There actually is a canon star wars character who pretty much exactly fits that description. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/C-3PX


Welp, that's three hours of my life I'm not getting back D':
Seannibal wrote:
Fla_Panther wrote:


> "Oh Sugar, you are a character."



My last reread makes that sentence read differently. According to Paige in the third paragraph, Sugar Wat is sounding more like a Main Character, with that bold dialog.


Ah! Of course! Sugar What spelled without the 'H', because Wat is another form of temple.
arch, I should have picked up on that one sooner.

Some reading for those interessted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wat
It just occured to me that of Tower/Temple personalities balance/oppose that of the current ruler, then King Dicky will probably find himself staring up into the nostrils of "Honest Abe".
Windscion wrote:
It just occured to me that of Tower/Temple personalities balance/oppose that of the current ruler, then King Dicky will probably find himself staring up into the nostrils of "Honest Abe".


Wonder what Jetstone will get, probably somthing with a brave, perhaps even brash personality?

Ohhh, Leeroy Jenkins?
Carl wrote:
Windscion wrote:
It just occured to me that of Tower/Temple personalities balance/oppose that of the current ruler, then King Dicky will probably find himself staring up into the nostrils of "Honest Abe".


Wonder what Jetstone will get, probably somthing with a brave, perhaps even brash personality?

Ohhh, Leeroy Jenkins?


What Jetstone needs more than anything is a naysayer. Overconfidence has already cost them two chief warlords, one ruler, their capital, untold numbers of units, two dollamancers that we know of, four other cities, more warlords than I care to count, much of their political capital on the world stage, their credibility as a side, and very nearly their very existence.

EDIT: I'm aware that Tramennis is painfully aware of all of the above. The million-schmucker question is whether or not the warlords and casters of Jetstone have gotten it through their heads. Natural thinkamancy probably deals with most of the worst effects of having a king at odds with his direct underlings, but currently Tramennis probably can't rely on anybody in jetstone to grok the side's newfound position as something other than a great power. He's good enough at handling people, and the culture of jetstone is staid and reliable enough that it's unlikely for warlords turning to be much of an issue either, but Tramennis currently needs a chief warlord who's comfortable operating under a very un-jetstone mentality. It's likely that every side that's ever resented jetstone, or even just competed with them, is going to be eyeing them up right now, and it may very well be the appropriate move to cut most of the empire loose and consolidate forces in a defensible core kingdom. Ask yourself this: Does that sound like the kind of plan Ansom would excel at? How about Ossomer? Antium? Webinar? All of them would serve dutifully, upon orders to do that, but it would go against the grain for all of them and that really would compromise their abilities as chief warlord.

Do we have a timeline of the events since the battle for Spacerock? I'm not sure, but I think we're only, what, half a dozen tenturns since then, or less? The shorter it's been since then, the worse Jetstone's position likely is.
tribble wrote:
Carl wrote:
Windscion wrote:
It just occured to me that of Tower/Temple personalities balance/oppose that of the current ruler, then King Dicky will probably find himself staring up into the nostrils of "Honest Abe".


Wonder what Jetstone will get, probably somthing with a brave, perhaps even brash personality?

Ohhh, Leeroy Jenkins?


What Jetstone needs more than anything is a naysayer. Overconfidence has already cost them two chief warlords, one ruler, their capital, untold numbers of units, two dollamancers that we know of, four other cities, more warlords than I care to count, much of their political capital on the world stage, their credibility as a side, and very nearly their very existence.

EDIT: I'm aware that Tramennis is painfully aware of all of the above. The million-schmucker question is whether or not the warlords and casters of Jetstone have gotten it through their heads. Natural thinkamancy probably deals with most of the worst effects of having a king at odds with his direct underlings, but currently Tramennis probably can't rely on anybody in jetstone to grok the side's newfound position as something other than a great power. He's good enough at handling people, and the culture of jetstone is staid and reliable enough that it's unlikely for warlords turning to be much of an issue either, but Tramennis currently needs a chief warlord who's comfortable operating under a very un-jetstone mentality. It's likely that every side that's ever resented jetstone, or even just competed with them, is going to be eyeing them up right now, and it may very well be the appropriate move to cut most of the empire loose and consolidate forces in a defensible core kingdom. Ask yourself this: Does that sound like the kind of plan Ansom would excel at? How about Ossomer? Antium? Webinar? All of them would serve dutifully, upon orders to do that, but it would go against the grain for all of them and that really would compromise their abilities as chief warlord.

Do we have a timeline of the events since the battle for Spacerock? I'm not sure, but I think we're only, what, half a dozen tenturns since then, or less? The shorter it's been since then, the worse Jetstone's position likely is.


We don't have a specific timeline, but it's been long enough that if anyone was going to start making moves they probably would have. he other issue is that ultimately a tower can't do an infinite amount about the mentality issues of the rest of jetstone. It can only affect units in the capital for significant periods of time. For GK that hasn't been an issue, and it probably won't be an issue with Nestle or Charlie because of unique features of the side. But for everyone else the main person they're going to be able to influence is the ruler, not the rest of the side. And Tremmanis's issue right now is he's dithering himself right into indecision IMO.
Carl wrote:
Wonder what Jetstone will get, probably somthing with a brave, perhaps even brash personality?
Ohhh, Leeroy Jenkins?

What makes you think Tramennis isn't brave? I'd say he is. He has displayed it at the Battle at Spacerock bridge, and the battle for Spacerock itself, trying to sensure the safety of the King. He stood up to Charlie, after the catastrophe of the battle of Spacerock.

I'd say he is a very brave man.

tribble wrote:

What Jetstone needs more than anything is a naysayer. Overconfidence has already cost them [a large number of very valuable assets] and very nearly their very existence.

EDIT: I'm aware that Tramennis is painfully aware of all of the above.

Then why do you say they need a naysayer? They lost all that under the previous Ruler. The current Ruler made just about the same speech you just have to Charlie, saying nay to Charlie.


tribble wrote:
The million-schmucker question is whether or not the warlords and casters of Jetstone have gotten it through their heads. Natural thinkamancy probably deals with most of the worst effects of having a king at odds with his direct underlings, but currently Tramennis probably can't rely on anybody in jetstone to grok the side's newfound position as something other than a great power. He's good enough at handling people, and the culture of jetstone is staid and reliable enough that it's unlikely for warlords turning to be much of an issue either, but Tramennis currently needs a chief warlord who's comfortable operating under a very un-jetstone mentality.

Tramennis has already done much to rally the side. The show he put up with Ansom showed just how well he knows the situation inside and outside his kingdom, an how deftly he pulls the strings.

He certainly will make huge changes to Jetstone as a side. A different kind of Chief Warleader is probably wise. With a King as able as Tramennis though, most Warleders will feel quite blessed.


Carl wrote:
We don't have a specific timeline, but it's been long enough that if anyone was going to start making moves they probably would have. The other issue is that ultimately a tower can't do an infinite amount about the mentality issues of the rest of jetstone. It can only affect units in the capital for significant periods of time. For GK that hasn't been an issue, and it probably won't be an issue with Nestle or Charlie because of unique features of the side. But for everyone else the main person they're going to be able to influence is the ruler, not the rest of the side. And Tremmanis's issue right now is he's dithering himself right into indecision IMO.

What makes you think that? As I have shown above, Tramennis seems to be quite decisive and on top of things.
tribble wrote:
Do we have a timeline of the events since the battle for Spacerock? I'm not sure, but I think we're only, what, half a dozen tenturns since then, or less? The shorter it's been since then, the worse Jetstone's position likely is.


We do, and it's been about 21 days since the fall of Spacerock (AW 75).
Nice update.

Art looks way better too

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A tower coming alive and immediately talking about world domination. That is a GREAT sign...