Book 4 - Epilogue 1

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Book 4 - Epilogue 1
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Snipped long-winded joke about Lipkin and Seanfish being American beers because of temperature...
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Umbrathor wrote:
Lipkin wrote:
Scenario.

Friend 1: "I'm getting a beer, do you want one?"

Friend 2: "Is the beer cold?"

Friend 1: "Beer is typically served cold."

Friend 2: "In Germany beer is served at room, or cellar temperature."

Friend 1: "Even if Germany drank more beer than everyone else in the world combined, making beer more likely to be served warm overall, we are not in Germany. Context matters. My statement was in reference to the likelihood that the beer I bring you would be cold."

Friend 2: "So the beer is cold?"

Friend 1: "If you want to find out, you'll have to get it yourself."

fin

seanfish wrote:

How is that [a warrior replicant carrying a weapon] different from Stormbringer [which is apparently a sentient fantasy weapon]?

Is the sentience, which directs the soulsucking, the blade? Is the soulsucking a weapon, and if it is, is it a part of the intellect that is the sentience within Stormbringer, or is it external. Are you your teeth? Am I? Was I just asking if I was your or my teeth? If the beer's cold enough will it make my teeth hurt?

Nerd? I'll have you know I'm the coolest reader of a niche fantasy RPG webcomic with an obsession for contractual negotiation and metamagical theorisation that ever there was. Well, second to you. :lol:


What I have gleaned from all this, is that if Lipkin is the coolest, and Seanfish the second coolest, you are both American beers?

I may have misunderstood.

seanfish wrote:
Lipkin is a tall drink of water. I'm one of those cruddy energy drinks that leaves you feeling hyped up but still tired.


I rather imagined you as a short, round drink of a water. With a fish in it.

Thanks for correcting me.
seanfish wrote:
Umbrathor wrote:
The fact that not all callous personalities become big baddies, means that some do. The ones don't may simply lack opportunity. At any rate, it's not an argument why THIS callous personality might not become a big baddie.

Hold up. Hooooooooold up.

*Holds up. Cocks eyebrow*

seanfish wrote:
Firstly, one ironic quip does NOT make a "callous personality". Are we really going to have a conversation escalating the 'Pliers to Godzilla because they made the equivalent of a "faw down go boom" comment?

Some "compassionate" (if that's our opposite) personalities also become the big bad. There have been a lot of conversations about tropes - Warren Ellis in his Stormwatch arc had the person who just wanted to do the best for the world and decided that taking over and installing himself as fascist dictator was the best way to make sure that the best happened for everyone whether they like it or not.

Well, I am not the one calling the Pliers callous. I am quoting someone who did. Though I may have left out that bit of the quote, as I tend to snip. Something that Anonymous167 (I hope that is the correct number) has chewed me out over before. Rightly, in cases where that leads to a misrepresentation. Which appears to have been the case here, too. Though luckily it now leads to me putting myself in a to-conclusions-jumpy light, and not someone else.

And yes, I believe that even a single comment can be valid grounds for assessing someone's character as being callous, or unfeeling. As long as one is willing to change one's mind when new evidence comes to light that may change that assessment.


seanfish wrote:
So yeah, we should abandon this whole line of reasoning. Just straight up throw it out. It doesn't have legs.

If we were to throw things out just because they don't have legs, there would soon be very few bowls of fish left in the world.

And that cannot possibly be something you are in favor of, unless you have suicidal tendencies.
Umbrathor wrote:

Why spell Isaac as Issac? I see so many peple do that. Some even misspelled the name six times in a single post, and quite consistently, so maybe this is a Thing and not a Typo.

I assume that it's some combination of laziness and learning disabilities/differences. I know there are some people who have learning differences (dyslexia, and so on) which make correct spelling a real challenge, so it's good to show some leniency. On the other hand, there can't be that many people with bona fide learning disorders, so I would assume that many of these cases are people simply being too lazy to learn how to spell a simple common name like Isaac. Which is infuriating, but it's almost impossible to tell who's doing it out of laziness and who's doing it because of dyslexia.
greycat wrote:
Umbrathor wrote:

Why spell Isaac as Issac? I see so many peple do that. Some even misspelled the name six times in a single post, and quite consistently, so maybe this is a Thing and not a Typo.

I assume that it's some combination of laziness and learning disabilities/differences. I know there are some people who have learning differences (dyslexia, and so on) which make correct spelling a real challenge, so it's good to show some leniency. On the other hand, there can't be that many people with bona fide learning disorders, so I would assume that many of these cases are people simply being too lazy to learn how to spell a simple common name like Isaac. Which is infuriating, but it's almost impossible to tell who's doing it out of laziness and who's doing it because of dyslexia.

I know, which is why I haven't commented on it before. But usually, the other words in the posts are spelled correctly. Just the name Isaac isn't. That makes me believe it's not dyslexia, but a Thing.
Umbrathor wrote:
seanfish wrote:
So yeah, we should abandon this whole line of reasoning. Just straight up throw it out. It doesn't have legs.

If we were to throw things out just because they don't have legs, there would soon be very few bowls of fish left in the world.

And that cannot possibly be something you are in favor of, unless you have suicidal tendencies.
Umbrathor wrote:
Snipped long-winded joke about Lipkin and Seanfish being American beers because of temperature...
Spoiler: show
Umbrathor wrote:
Lipkin wrote:
Scenario.

Friend 1: "I'm getting a beer, do you want one?"

Friend 2: "Is the beer cold?"

Friend 1: "Beer is typically served cold."

Friend 2: "In Germany beer is served at room, or cellar temperature."

Friend 1: "Even if Germany drank more beer than everyone else in the world combined, making beer more likely to be served warm overall, we are not in Germany. Context matters. My statement was in reference to the likelihood that the beer I bring you would be cold."

Friend 2: "So the beer is cold?"

Friend 1: "If you want to find out, you'll have to get it yourself."

fin

seanfish wrote:

How is that [a warrior replicant carrying a weapon] different from Stormbringer [which is apparently a sentient fantasy weapon]?

Is the sentience, which directs the soulsucking, the blade? Is the soulsucking a weapon, and if it is, is it a part of the intellect that is the sentience within Stormbringer, or is it external. Are you your teeth? Am I? Was I just asking if I was your or my teeth? If the beer's cold enough will it make my teeth hurt?

Nerd? I'll have you know I'm the coolest reader of a niche fantasy RPG webcomic with an obsession for contractual negotiation and metamagical theorisation that ever there was. Well, second to you. :lol:


What I have gleaned from all this, is that if Lipkin is the coolest, and Seanfish the second coolest, you are both American beers?

I may have misunderstood.

seanfish wrote:
Lipkin is a tall drink of water. I'm one of those cruddy energy drinks that leaves you feeling hyped up but still tired.


I rather imagined you as a short, round drink of a water. With a fish in it.

Thanks for correcting me.


I'm a fish suspended in a cruddy energy drink. Short Round is Indiana Jones' sidekick.
The brain doesn't actually look at the entire word, but rather recognizes patterns and goes "yeah, got it." Double a's are uncommon in the English language, while double s's are not. "Issac" is how some people spell the name, so people probably just aren't aware that the character is a double a.

Claud vs Claude suffers the same problem. Phonetically the same name, so people use the spelling they are familiar with.




But the "Gillian" crowd aren't even trying.
Umbrathor wrote:
If is IS a type, then the name would more logically be Plisaac.

If it IS a typo...
Umbrathor wrote:
greycat wrote:
Umbrathor wrote:

Why spell Isaac as Issac? I see so many peple do that. Some even misspelled the name six times in a single post, and quite consistently, so maybe this is a Thing and not a Typo.

I assume that it's some combination of laziness and learning disabilities/differences. I know there are some people who have learning differences (dyslexia, and so on) which make correct spelling a real challenge, so it's good to show some leniency. On the other hand, there can't be that many people with bona fide learning disorders, so I would assume that many of these cases are people simply being too lazy to learn how to spell a simple common name like Isaac. Which is infuriating, but it's almost impossible to tell who's doing it out of laziness and who's doing it because of dyslexia.

I know, which is why I haven't commented on it before. But usually, the other words in the posts are spelled correctly. Just the name Isaac isn't. That makes me believe it's not dyslexia, but a Thing.

It's not a thing.

Isaac and Issac are both names, and though Isaac is both correct in this case and much more common, it's plausible that multiple people on the forums are simply making the mistake.

A google ngram comparison.
twhitt wrote:

It's not a thing.

Isaac and Issac are both names, and though Isaac is both correct in this case and much more common, it's plausible that multiple people on the forums are simply making the mistake.

A google ngram comparison.


Capitalization matters on that. Using capital I's will smooth out the graph. Isaac still beats out all of them.
Try this ngram comparison

My son Ezekiel has a similar issue with people spelling his name Ezekial. Even happens from school teachers that are quite familiar with Bible names. It used to make him pretty mad. He doesn't like his name shortened either, which I'm guessing makes him feel older.