Book 3 - Page 333

Getting his first notch

Book 3 - Page 333
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Arci wrote:
I'm in a mood to be funny. So, let's see what I can do with the page...

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Well, I had fun.

That is GREAT.
Bond_em7 wrote:
ShaneTheBrain wrote:
Wonder when (or if) Benjamin and Skyy will contact Parson? Now that they know he's alive and willing to help them, and is good at finding ways to beat Charlie, he'd be a great "call a friend" choice.


The problem with this is that they need a thinkamancer to be able to contact him and considering they're all dead that would be hard. They might be able to use a decrypted archeon but I think her juice was all spent. I don't think they have a way to contact him except maybe through HueHue via Jed?

Hat.

Skyy has a hat.
ShaneTheBrain wrote:
Wonder when (or if) Benjamin and Skyy will contact Parson? Now that they know he's alive and willing to help them, and is good at finding ways to beat Charlie, he'd be a great "call a friend" choice.

Skyy always knew Parson was alive and on Erfworld. His last known location was the Portal Room of Transilvito. So it should be no surprise to her that mister McPortalwalkerpants wound back Spacerock. I mean, that's probably what Parson was doing with Benny and the Caese in the portal room (before everything went haywire), saying goodbye before the big guy returned home... to Space Rock via the Magic Kingdom.

Skyy has every reason to assume that Benny knows that Parson is in Spacerock (and there's no-sense telling him something he already knows). And just because Skyy thinks that Benny knows something doesn't mean he knows it.

https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/325

I should really check the comic before I wreck myself...
paskal wrote:
hey, so we know sky things gems are gone but wouldn't benjamin notice that?
No, why would he? It's not like he checked out the dining room table
Quote:
Am I a fool for hoping maybe they are not gone?

Yes, yes you are.
paskal wrote:
hey, so we know sky things gems are gone but wouldn't benjamin notice that? Am I a fool for hoping maybe they are not gone?

Be it far from me to call anyone but myself a fool.

However, 'stubbornly optimistic' seems applicable.
Anomynous 167 wrote:
Bond_em7 wrote:
ShaneTheBrain wrote:
Wonder when (or if) Benjamin and Skyy will contact Parson? Now that they know he's alive and willing to help them, and is good at finding ways to beat Charlie, he'd be a great "call a friend" choice.


The problem with this is that they need a thinkamancer to be able to contact him and considering they're all dead that would be hard. They might be able to use a decrypted archeon but I think her juice was all spent. I don't think they have a way to contact him except maybe through HueHue via Jed?

Hat.

Skyy has a hat.
ShaneTheBrain wrote:
Wonder when (or if) Benjamin and Skyy will contact Parson? Now that they know he's alive and willing to help them, and is good at finding ways to beat Charlie, he'd be a great "call a friend" choice.

Skyy always knew Parson was alive and on Erfworld. His last known location was the Portal Room of Transilvito. So it should be no surprise to her that mister McPortalwalkerpants wound back Spacerock. I mean, that's probably what Parson was doing with Benny and the Caese in the portal room (before everything went haywire), saying goodbye before the big guy returned home... to Space Rock via the Magic Kingdom.

Skyy has every reason to assume that Benny knows that Parson is in Spacerock (and there's no-sense telling him something he already knows). And just because Skyy thinks that Benny knows something doesn't mean he knows it.

https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/325

I should really check the comic before I wreck myself...
paskal wrote:
hey, so we know sky things gems are gone but wouldn't benjamin notice that?
No, why would he? It's not like he checked out the dining room table
Quote:
Am I a fool for hoping maybe they are not gone?

Yes, yes you are.


There is so much to remember at this point, and much more complicated by how we readers "know" everything while the characters are far more limited.

Skyy was out of touch, going to get the crown and contract (which Bill told Caesar about), then Caesar added the order to get the gun. Did Caesar mention anything about Parson disappearing in his orders? Not as far as I know. Caesar also never had a chance to issue any updates before he was trapped.

Which was a lucky thing, because she was out of the room with the gems when the molls turned and started stealing gems, which she then took out.

Very good point about how she wouldn't know anything about what happened to Parson. She pointed out herself that she and Cheri don't know the situation, but they are quickly getting closer to caught up. But not there yet, unless Ben has exchanged details off-screen, which should happen soon.



It would be funny if the gems could be magically stolen back, but we have no hints that can actually happen.

Also, it isn't necessary if either TV or GK units can trick or force Charlie's units to attack them. The current contract would give them far more than they already have. Parson's invasion plan is still possible, if TV can manage to keep its treasury and do the gem exchanges with GK.
Metallicat wrote:
Anomynous 167 wrote:

ShaneTheBrain wrote:
Wonder when (or if) Benjamin and Skyy will contact Parson? Now that they know he's alive and willing to help them, and is good at finding ways to beat Charlie, he'd be a great "call a friend" choice.

Skyy always knew Parson was alive and on Erfworld. His last known location was the Portal Room of Transilvito. So it should be no surprise to her that mister McPortalwalkerpants wound back Spacerock. I mean, that's probably what Parson was doing with Benny and the Caese in the portal room (before everything went haywire), saying goodbye before the big guy returned home... to Space Rock via the Magic Kingdom.

Skyy has every reason to assume that Benny knows that Parson is in Spacerock (and there's no-sense telling him something he already knows). And just because Skyy thinks that Benny knows something doesn't mean he knows it.

https://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/325

I should really check the comic before I wreck myself...


There is so much to remember at this point, and much more complicated by how we readers "know" everything while the characters are far more limited.

Skyy was out of touch, going to get the crown and contract (which Bill told Caesar about), then Caesar added the order to get the gun. Did Caesar mention anything about Parson disappearing in his orders? Not as far as I know. Caesar also never had a chance to issue any updates before he was trapped.

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Which was a lucky thing, because she was out of the room with the gems when the molls turned and started stealing gems, which she then took out.

Very good point about how she wouldn't know anything about what happened to Parson. She pointed out herself that she and Cheri don't know the situation, but they are quickly getting closer to caught up. But not there yet, unless Ben has exchanged details off-screen, which should happen soon.



It would be funny if the gems could be magically stolen back, but we have no hints that can actually happen.

Also, it isn't necessary if either TV or GK units can trick or force Charlie's units to attack them. The current contract would give them far more than they already have. Parson's invasion plan is still possible, if TV can manage to keep its treasury and do the gem exchanges with GK.

I wouldn't call Skyy lucky for being in the room with the Gems when the dolls turned. Had Caesar not ordered a bat to check-up on Skyy, Charlie would have never discovered the gems in the first place. This is very much a case when "observing a thing, changes it". Heck, those dolls were only in the dining room for the purpose of escorting Skyy her ownself.

I guess she is lucky for levelling 4 times this turn, but it came at the cost of 25 million in gems.
Have we seen any sign that Hats can be activated WITHOUT using a magic word? (e.g. "Hoffa" and "Livingston" for Jillian and Ansom) If this is the case, then we also need to know if molls can speak...
Anomynous 167 wrote:

paskal wrote:
Am I a fool for hoping maybe they are not gone?

Yes, yes you are.
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GaryThunder wrote:
"What's that gun doing in that port"?? Even the Dirtamancers aren't that rock stupid. They know they're chasing Ivan and Claude and they've almost certainly spotted the gun in Claude's hands before the two retreated. And for all we and the comic are talking about enfilade, it's really used more against mass attacks by large groups of soldiers, its specific principles aren't as important when your enemy barely outnumbers you.

What's more, the Dirties are all low on juice because of the bedrock scrolls they linked with Charlie to cast, so they don't really have any alternative to charging forward. They can't burrow around Ivan and Claude's position, not without Ivan realizing it with his Dirtamancer senses.

Right now the Dirtamancers have two choices: advance or retreat. They're too proud and stubborn to retreat, and you know that if Joe or someone says "Hey Buck, maybe we shouldn't walk directly into gunfire", Buck will double down, like he's been doing, and INSIST that they walk directly into gunfire.

And hey, if that causes squabbling and dissension among the Dirtamancers, so much the better.



It's a reaction time thing. It takes longer for you to put the pieces together, especially if you've had no experience with gun warfare, that the rifle in the firing position is attached to an armed soldier, than it does for you to notice your opponent has noticed you and to open fire.

Remember, it's two sets of casters fighting each other, not warlords, and, well, you end up getting things like the Three Stooges Dirtamancy Brigade as well as Claude opening fire at will, instead of at the last possible moment.
Metallicat wrote:
O4rfish wrote:
Note: Claude has a KDR because he died once and killed once. Anyone who hasn't ever died can have a kill count, but not a kill-death ratio (unless you like dividing by zero).


Most video games report one kill for no deaths as 1.0 KDR. Otherwise there wouldn't be a difference between 1:0 and 50:0.


A ratio isn't a fraction. The problem comes because people are treating ratios as a fraction. Yes, you can reduce ratios to get meaningfully similar results in the same way you can with a fraction, but it's not necessary in the least.

Someone with a Kill:Death ratio of 10:5 can be usefully said to have a 2:1 ratio, but that doesn't provide all the useful information.

Someone with a 2:1 KDR after 3 death-involving events has had an ordinary couple of minutes play. Someone with 10:5 is playing well this match. Someone with 10,000:5,000 consistently plays better than others match after match over a long period. Just looking at ratios as fractions really ruins a deeper insight into the narrative of a player's game.

What about zeros? 2:0 is a lucky start. 10:0 is really being in the zone for a game. 10,000:0 is simply godlike, to quote Unreal Tournament. Calling the first two the equivalent of infinite is just nonsense.

Numbers that break calculators shouldn't break our brains.
are people forgetting that Claude croaked once?

He's effectively 1:1