Book 3 - Page 65

Book 3 - Page 65
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From the non-aggression pact:

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Neither Party shall attempt to cause, either directly or through agents or other contracted parties, any material harm to the units, cities, property, or other assets of the other Party.


So... if that captured archon tries to escape, and wounds a Charlescomm unit in the attempt, is GK considered to be in violation of the contract? Ouch.

Actually, even kicking a door down would seem to be a violation.
zyxophoj wrote:
Neither Party shall attempt to cause, either directly or through agents or other contracted parties, any material harm to the units, cities, property, or other assets of the other Party.
So... if that captured archon tries to escape, and wounds a Charlescomm unit in the attempt, is GK considered to be in violation of the contract? Ouch.
I do not believe so, because the status of Prisoners seem to be pretty firmly established at all stages. While a captured Prisoner, they seem the sole responsibility of the Captor side (Captors pay the upkeep, Prisoner acts on their Turn, etc). If the Prisoner escapes, they are treated as a Barbarian, responsible for their own Upkeep and acting at Dawn. They have to actually reach units of their "native" side in order to be Repatriated.

So the Archon causing harm while escaping would, from a contractual perspective, be akin to Charlie punching himself. No breach.
kiyote wrote:
I don't think that flipping the money back and forth fulfills Lilith's deal.
How could it not fulfill Lilith's deal? The deal was simply for Charlescomm to pay 75k to Gobwin Knob. Once that's done, whatever Gobwin Knob wants to do with the money is Gobwin Knob's business. I'm sure that if Parson had paid the 90k then he would not be getting a third 75k offer because the last 75k was the one and only actual payment for Lilith.
zyxophoj wrote:

So... if that captured archon tries to escape, and wounds a Charlescomm unit in the attempt, is GK considered to be in violation of the contract? Ouch.

Actually, even kicking a door down would seem to be a violation.


So would conning the other side out of 5k......
Okay, I'm seriously missing something here.

Can someone reference me to "The Lilith Deal"? Because I'm a little lost.

Normally I'm all over these things, but I'm really missing this one.
Housellama wrote:
Okay, I'm seriously missing something here.

Can someone reference me to "The Lilith Deal"? Because I'm a little lost.

Normally I'm all over these things, but I'm really missing this one.

Here.
AHA! That makes much more sense now. Thank you.
If you play the shell game, it doesn't matter which shell you pick, the pea is always "somewhere else." When you play three card monte, it doesn't matter which card you pick, it's not the queen. You can not beat the con by playing the game.

When you're dealing with Charlie, the smarter you think you're being, the worse you'll get it. There is no way to play HIS game and come out ahead. He doesn't play fair games where his opponent has a winning play. Charlie. Is. A. Con-Man. Full Stop.

It wouldn't matter if Parson paid the 90k, Charlie wouldn't have given the real info. It wouldn't matter if he paid 100k on a third transaction, or a fourth. However many times Parson paid, the one where he gives up would be the one paying for Lillith.

For this transaction, it doesn't even matter if Charlie is able to break contracts with impunity, or if his ability to "work people over thinkomatically" allows him to tell when you won't take the bait, or if he's able to do brain surgery on himself, or if it's something else.

Sure, any of those abilities matter long term, but for this transaction, all you need to know is Charlie is a con, and he ran a game on Parson. IF Parson knows about Lillith, then he played it cool, and denied Charlie intel. If he doesn't, then he came out as far ahead as you can expect to get when dealing with Charlie and playing his games.
Off topic: Intellectually, I know that all clothing and raiment automatically cleans itself at the start of each new turn, but on some level, I am instinctively disturbed to know that Parson has been wearing the same pair of faded boxer shorts for Titans know how many turns. That really squicks me out for some reason.
OneHugeTuck wrote:
zyxophoj wrote:

So... if that captured archon tries to escape, and wounds a Charlescomm unit in the attempt, is GK considered to be in violation of the contract? Ouch.

Actually, even kicking a door down would seem to be a violation.


So would conning the other side out of 5k......


Actually the Agreement's Section 4 part X - "Actions not Considered" exempts actions of Trade in regards to the Agreement, unless the Trade itself specifically and directly violates any other term (Like f.ex. selling information about the Agreement will be a breach of confidentiality).