Book 3 - Page 59

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ManaCaster wrote:
╒╦╧╬╩╦╦╛ wrote:

Well,

a) at the end of book 1, the LVL 0 city of gobwin knob pops a dwagon even if a lvl 5 cityis needed for that production to be an option.

It was said that switching capitals would stop popping the heir, which is presumably a different rule. We don't really know if turning it back to a capital before end of turn would reenable the process.


They don't say that switching capital will cause the heir to stop popping, they just assume that it will be razed/conquered/ burnt down before the end of the turn and that a son of jetstone will be lost, which considering their point of view doesn't exclude having the heir pop for a nonroyal side if at all after but most likely not as they assumed the city would be razed or would certainly not have been re-capitalized before the end of the turn..

ManaCaster wrote:

╒╦╧╬╩╦╦╛ wrote:

b) we don't even know if it is possible to cancel production of a unit

You can in a typical game, so I don't see why not. And if Spacerock is still popping an heir and cannot be cancelled, then why would this conversation even take place? The matter would have already been settled.


They conquered the city after the production selection was set, knowing what's on the queue from anything but memory has never been listed as an actual ruler power (I think). Even if he see what's on the queue it might be something not particularily informative like "human warlord"

As for the "why not" being able to stop production would allow you to more easily stop growth. With constant popping you have to keep conquering to pay upkeep for everyone or disband some and risk loyalty loss from troops seeing you'd rather disband them than send them out to do what they were popped to do.

I'm mostly playing the devil's advocate here, but it would be interesting storywise (and would make it more pertinent that 1- spacerock was popping an heir at the moement of conquest 2-we knew it) so I think it's a neat thing to discuss anyway :)
According to the talk Don and Stanley have -

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"The city falls, and you'll lose the heir you're popping. You may not be able to do anything about that, though. You have to face the facts."


http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/127

On top of that there has been no mention of them retaining the Royal Heir and we have direct evidence within Book Three (twice no less) that Stanley will not consider popping or having an heir. Parson makes no mention of them getting one nor has any other character brought it up.

If GK was about to pop a royal Heir it would be the proverbial elephant in the room considering Stanley's stance yet - no one has.

I mean what other people find interesting to discuss is really none of my business so please don't let this post discourage people from contributing to the topic. It just seems that we have so many other more likely things to discuss that debating or discussing something that will have no relevance to the plot (as it will never happen) is akin to us discussing that what if Jed brings Slately back to life in its role as the perfect tower as that will never happen either.
Has there been a thread exploring the nature of Transylvito, and the obvious aspect of Croakamancy to that side?

Their Moneymancer does not have vampiric signamancy, whereas Bunny does... thoughts?
CDS wrote:
It is actually an interesting point that both T.V. (Assuming they can pop Doombats) and Jetstone (assuming Orlies are part of their pop menu) seem to be able to pop more types of units than GK who can pop three types and FAQ who have only been shown to pop two types (and one is simply a variation on the former).

I count more than three and two.

GK pops Twolls, Spidews, Humans, Dwagons. They may have gotten out of the habit of popping other types cuz of Gobwins/Hobs.

FAQ pops Humans, Gwiffons, Megalos (which I consider a different unit), and I would guess they can pop more but that just isn't Jill's way.

Plus I'm guessing that all sides can do siege, and trebuchet-like objects. (Frankly, I hope that Parson comes up with an idea for the 'stealth-catapult,' quoting the Sheriff of Rottingham).
I'm betting that Bunny's expulsion and current state as a an apple thinkamancer ("think different"), must have something to do with Transylvito's other caster. The dollamancer. The one who was such a "pervert" that even Caesar was disgusted with him. I imagine they are pretty tolerant of kinks in Transylvito, so he has to be a bad piece.

In all likelihood, that involves a linkup. Here's a theory: Bunny's name is, of course, a reference to Playboy's playmates. The playmates are in a sense very "objectified", playing out a role for others' benefit, much like dolls in one way.

What if Bunny "objectified" herself with the dollamancers' help in a link up? Took on doll-like traits somehow? That sounds like something that might both disgust and shock even the open-minded transylvitans (especially if the dollamancer pushed for it, which we almost have to assume for this theory since everyone still likes Bunny). It could explain Bunny's lack of speech: dolls don't have language! It would also explain why the great minds go so far as to deny that she is a thinkamancer.
@vintermann:

Dude... Mind blown... The only flaw I see is that, lacking the capacity for language, Bunny would not be able to Thinkagram in said language, which she does a lot.
CDS wrote:
Parson makes no mention of them getting one nor has any other character brought it up.

If GK was about to pop a royal Heir it would be the proverbial elephant in the room considering Stanley's stance yet - no one has.


Can anyone but Stanley actually tell what it's popping?

twhitt wrote:
Then, it's tough to explain why you'd need a thinkamancer in the field, so where was she when the capital fell to the hobbos?


She could have been in the MK, and found it unsafe/futile to return until it was all over.
ManaCaster wrote:
Not likely. Jetstone switched capitals, making the city unable to pop an heir. Then it got conquered by Gobwin Knob. And even if it wasn't cancelled right away and was permitted to continue due to Gobwin Knob transferring their own capital, Stanley has outright said that he doesn't want an heir. If he was paying any attention at all to his cities' production queues, he would have cancelled it himself by now.

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If he was paying any attention at all to his cities' production queues, ...

You just invalidated your own argument. :-)
Urf wrote:
Has there been a thread exploring the nature of Transylvito, and the obvious aspect of Croakamancy to that side?



I don't think there is any connection between Transylvito and Croakamancy, at least not in Erf. If there is a connection it is in Parson's world.
I want Don's Heir to be a Croakamancer. We could find out what Croakamancers who aren't Wanda can do, and it would make Transylvito even more a foil for GK. Especially if Ceasar pulls the crime people think Stanley did before the new heir pops.

But this is just speculation, not something I expect to happen.