Book 3 - Page 305

Skyy, molls, a ripoff

Book 3 - Page 305
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Adept wrote:
abb3w wrote:

What makes you think the ammo isn't sabotaged/cursed to critical failure, backfire, and blow up the rifle?

let’s start with Charlie not having a dirtamancer on hand to quickly craft bad ammo. There is no reason he’d have such in stock.


Great point. These were his ultra-top-secret superweapons, until very recently. Why have blanks ready for a con, when he didn't even want anyone to know they existed?

I accept that Charlie is a chessmaster but this would be a bit much, even for him...
Ansan Gotti wrote:
Adept wrote:
abb3w wrote:

What makes you think the ammo isn't sabotaged/cursed to critical failure, backfire, and blow up the rifle?

let’s start with Charlie not having a dirtamancer on hand to quickly craft bad ammo. There is no reason he’d have such in stock.


Great point. These were his ultra-top-secret superweapons, until very recently. Why have blanks ready for a con, when he didn't even want anyone to know they existed?

I accept that Charlie is a chessmaster but this would be a bit much, even for him...


Blanks and non-lethal ammo are frequently used in training exercises. It's not unreasonable that Charlie would have some of both on hand for his own purposes, then use it to his advantage with TV. Unless the delivery of live rounds was part of the contract, which we have no way of knowing.
Aion wrote:
Ansan Gotti wrote:
Adept wrote:
let’s start with Charlie not having a dirtamancer on hand to quickly craft bad ammo. There is no reason he’d have such in stock.

Great point. These were his ultra-top-secret superweapons, until very recently. Why have blanks ready for a con, when he didn't even want anyone to know they existed?

I accept that Charlie is a chessmaster but this would be a bit much, even for him...

Blanks and non-lethal ammo are frequently used in training exercises. It's not unreasonable that Charlie would have some of both on hand for his own purposes, then use it to his advantage with TV. Unless the delivery of live rounds was part of the contract, which we have no way of knowing.

The guns' instant-expert enchantment makes practice and training completely unnecessary.
Aion wrote:
Ansan Gotti wrote:
Adept wrote:

let’s start with Charlie not having a dirtamancer on hand to quickly craft bad ammo. There is no reason he’d have such in stock.


Great point. These were his ultra-top-secret superweapons, until very recently. Why have blanks ready for a con, when he didn't even want anyone to know they existed?

I accept that Charlie is a chessmaster but this would be a bit much, even for him...


Blanks and non-lethal ammo are frequently used in training exercises. It's not unreasonable that Charlie would have some of both on hand for his own purposes, then use it to his advantage with TV. Unless the delivery of live rounds was part of the contract, which we have no way of knowing.


We don't know the exact details of the contract, but getting some ammo would be a smart thing for Don to ask for.

The weapon auto special could recognize Mag load types, and the user would be aware of it. They were made for use by Charlie's own forces. Also ninja'd, but the auto special makes weapon training unnecessary. Archon would just use foolamancy in tactical practice.

Could he have planned ahead for bogus ammo to trick enemies who stole guns from his ultra secure storage? Sure. But why bother, when they could easily contract with a dirtamancer to make more.?

I don't see where Charlie would be threatened by a few mags of ammo, when the Dirtamancers in the MK can make all they want.

Because Bill had to spring the trap when the Tower revealed his treachery, he and Charlie could have planned to wait until the contract and rifle were present, so Bill could get his hands on the weapon himself.
Totally agree with theories expressed earlier that Charlie sent real rounds and the real contract as part of a plan to lull Caesar into complacency, with Bill as an Ace up Charlie's sleeve in case standard diplomacy didn't work.

But then he was forced to rush the plan into place after the Tower came alive.
Ozamataz Buckshank wrote:

The guns' instant-expert enchantment makes practice and training completely unnecessary.


Maybe not for proficiency, but we've explicitly seen some kind of training, or rehearsal, tactical practice, what have you, going on at Charlescomm, so I wouldn't rule it out.

http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/231
Pikers also perform drills. Stanley even found it a great way to get his groove back, with his buddies the Juggle Elves.
BTW, I agree - SkyMalls are a ripoff.
Aion wrote:
Ansan Gotti wrote:

Great point. These were his ultra-top-secret superweapons, until very recently. Why have blanks ready for a con, when he didn't even want anyone to know they existed?

I accept that Charlie is a chessmaster but this would be a bit much, even for him...


Blanks and non-lethal ammo are frequently used in training exercises. It's not unreasonable that Charlie would have some of both on hand for his own purposes, then use it to his advantage with TV. Unless the delivery of live rounds was part of the contract, which we have no way of knowing.
Most certainly was part of the contract: Charlie was desperate, and Don could ask for a lot (Charlie was putting a lot on the table).

Gotta remember that Don had a major issue with using the rifle Parson came in with, since it didn't come with any bullets. Don knows that guns need bullets to have even a lick of use.
Merilynne wrote:
alowe wrote:
Another thing that surprises me. People are very aware when the coffers grow so why aren't they equally as aware when they suddenly disappear? Especially Caesar should know as the defacto leader of TV I would think.


They are definitely aware. It's been demonstrated, such as with Claud, Ivan, and the tar baby costing the side 5 million shmuckers and Stanley knowing when Lilith booped up and cost almost the whole GK treasury.

Unfortunately, gems don't count as treasury, which again, is the whole point of Ben converting GK's shmuckers.

Ah, I didn't know that. Seems obvious now you say it since gems are mined so you have to pick them up (but then I wonder at what point gems become related to a side's coffers and what happens to the gems after they are given a value). Also, even if a side's coffers are completely depleted what does it mean if you still own gems.

Meh, I better not get to technically into this story or I will spoil it for myself. Got to keep some mystery otherwise you'd know what will happen next (and then there's no story).