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Th Revanchist wrote:
In that same vein, can Dollamancers (or Change-a-mancers?) create armor that protects their wearer?

How would that work? A bonus to their defense seems the most "generically stat-oriented"... But also the most boring.

Dollamancy could animate it and give it special abilities, but making the armor physically more durable sounds like Changemancy.
focused wrote:
4) Jillian's speech to Ansom about empty dolls is booping weak considering half her troops have been magically mind controlled by a turnamancer for her. The turnamancer she's been dreaming of using to 'fix' Ansom. Really weak.


Excellent point.

I agree with whoever said that decryption would be good for Jillian in that it might just open her eyes, not just to her Deal of a Lifetime with Charlie but also to the fog of self-absorption she lives in where anything that happens that she doesn't like is awful and evil and intended to spite her, and anything she does is happiness and rainbows and there must be something wrong with anyone who doesn't agree.

I still think the most likely outcome is Jillian is captured, but there is a question mark over whether it is even possible for her to live at this point. If she dies, one would expect Wanda to ask Stanley bring the corpse back to be decrypted and Stanley might well want to do it anyway. He liked getting decrypted Ansom and decrypted Queen Jillian is at least as good. Especially if Ansom gets dusted (possible). Jillian stays in the story that way and even gets an opportunity to regain the character development lost at the end of book 0.

Decrypted Queen Jillian as chief warlord (in name) for Gobwin Knob would be hilarious, although I think it unlikely.
Thecommander236 wrote:
@oslecamo2 temp and Jesus man. Don't be such a psychopath about this. She's never betrayed anyone. Screwed them over unintentionally, sure, but never stabbed anyone in the back. AT least not figuratively.


Jillian intentionally left the Battle of Spacerock and intentionally left Gobwin Knob's dragon fleet there unharmed, completely betraying the people who gave her the resources to become Queen and have an army of her own again and who were relying on her to do her part. She didn't personally stab the Jetstonians who died at Spacerock, including King Slately, or the Transylvitans who died because their king devoted resources to the Whack from FAQ instead of to his own people, but she most certainly betrayed them.
OneHugeTuck wrote:
Th Revanchist wrote:
In that same vein, can Dollamancers (or Change-a-mancers?) create armor that protects their wearer?

How would that work? A bonus to their defense seems the most "generically stat-oriented"... But also the most boring.


It makes sense that anybody that can affect matter and numbers could do that in some version or other.

I can't see any reason not to make and equip, for instance, +4 armor on a high level chief warlord, aside from the risk of losing it in the field.
ManaCaster wrote:
Th Revanchist wrote:
In that same vein, can Dollamancers (or Change-a-mancers?) create armor that protects their wearer?

How would that work? A bonus to their defense seems the most "generically stat-oriented"... But also the most boring.

Dollamancy could animate it and give it special abilities, but making the armor physically more durable sounds like Changemancy.

Remember Ace outfitting Slately back in book 2? A dollamancer made a helmet with a bonus against thinkamancy/foolamancy, and a one-use cape that could completely negate a shockamancy bolt.

Most of the units involved with equipment and outfits have been dollamancers (Ken, Teddy Clothespin, Ace) or twolls (fabrication being a form of Natural Dollamancy).

Making armor for a unit, rather than just using the equipment that popped with it, sounds like something done with specific uses in mind, rather than general improvement. (+4 vs Fire as opposed to +4 in general)
No one in particular wrote:

Remember Ace outfitting Slately back in book 2? A dollamancer made a helmet with a bonus against thinkamancy/foolamancy...

Nope. The Thinking Cap was Cubbins's doing. Ace specifically left the tricky fooly stuff to him.

No one in particular wrote:

...and a one-use cape that could completely negate a shockamancy bolt.

Yes, but I was talking physical endurance. This sounds more magical.
If Jillian gets decrypted, I wonder if Wanda will use her and Ansom to act out scenes for her viewing pleasure.
ManaCaster wrote:
Th Revanchist wrote:
In that same vein, can Dollamancers (or Change-a-mancers?) create armor that protects their wearer?

How would that work? A bonus to their defense seems the most "generically stat-oriented"... But also the most boring.

Dollamancy could animate it and give it special abilities, but making the armor physically more durable sounds like Changemancy.


I agree. Dollamancy is Motion; Changemancy is Matter.

Dollamancers do make raiment, and can probably get away with some level of basic, functional armor (masterwork, in D&D terms), as we saw with Twollish fabrication. I would expect Chagemancy armor to be better (literally "magic armor" in D&D), by changing and toughening the composition. We've seen other cases where multiple disiplines can cause similar effects, though one often has the advantage in a given situation.

Dollamancy seem to focus more on active, functional changes. ("Dollamancy is for action!") There's the Shockamancy bracers and scepter. The flying armor plate (Weirdomancy?). The Charlescomm All-Weather Rain-ment Poncho was stated to be Dollamancy (presumably implementing Dirtamancy to stay dry?). The scouting veil on Wanda's first body probably came from a Dollamancer, implementing on-the-go Foolamancy. Slately's robe was probably similar magic to the Staff of Suckage, likely Flower Power. Come to think of it, creating accessories that mimic various magic disciplines seems potentially overpowered as it is. Also golems.
Nobody's said anything about Stanley/blue dwagon

I hope that happens. Rider goes splat, megalogwiff takes a sneak attack from above/behind, hammer plays whack-a-mole but powered up this time.

(did I miss how Stanley got from his armored red to his blue?)
OneHugeTuck wrote:
Nobody's said anything about Stanley/blue dwagon

I hope that happens. Rider goes splat, megalogwiff takes a sneak attack from above/behind, hammer plays whack-a-mole but powered up this time.

(did I miss how Stanley got from his armored red to his blue?)


He's been on the blue since his first appearance in this book.
Davre wrote:
OneHugeTuck wrote:
Nobody's said anything about Stanley/blue dwagon

I hope that happens. Rider goes splat, megalogwiff takes a sneak attack from above/behind, hammer plays whack-a-mole but powered up this time.

(did I miss how Stanley got from his armored red to his blue?)


He's been on the blue since his first appearance in this book.

So you could say he's in his Blue Period? I didn't even know he was a painter... although that would explain the ego and temper...