Book 3 - Page 2

Book 3 - Page 2
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abb3w wrote:
That actually might be subtly good news for Parson, in that the M67 and M26 are both more advanced models than the Mk 2 -- implying that Ace's starting designs may be more advanced that what Charlie has been able to develop.


That is correct according to wikipedia. Ace really does know his shit.

abb3w wrote:
Actually, from what little we know of the Perfect Warlord spell, I'd think the logical fifth would be a Carniemancer -- particularly given how Charlie was at least peripheral to the original summoning of Judy Gale. Specifically, using the most basic trick in Carniemancy: “Prob’ly the most common spell in Carnymancy lets you break one rule, for one turn, for one unit.” Charlie imposes the rule change that the Haffaton Thinkamancer (presumed Maxwell), for the one turn, can link up more than two other casters in a link; thus allowing the Thinkamancer to link a Findamancer, Predictamancer, and Lookamancer. Result: one Summon Perfect Warlord spell.

It might be that a Carniemancer with a secondary specialty, or other caster with secondary Carniemancer abilities, could be able to duplicate this. Carniac appears likely to be have both Carniemancer and Predictamancer predilections, and thus may have been the yet-unspecified Predictamancer involved in crafting Parson's Summoning, rather than Marie. As a more absurd long-shot alternative, it's known that Hubble was a caster who participated in Parson's summoning; searching with Google turns up an (obscure) ecology researcher named David Hubble, whose blog features "Circus of the Spineless" and "Carnival of Beetles" entries.


That's- a really good point actually...
But you are considering that the limitation on a 3-caster linkup is a rule, and not the impossible skill required to handle such a complex mind amalgamation, wich i think is the case.
Svankensen wrote:
But you are considering that the limitation on a 3-caster linkup is a rule, and not the impossible skill required to handle such a complex mind amalgamation, wich i think is the case.


The thinkamancer is the one that clear their minds to allow them to focus on the spell, that's the thinkamancers role in the link. That's why I think that one thinkamancer focusing the minds of one or two others, maybe two different links, can allow them to either link up more, or use a second discipline.

I lean towards

One link of 2-3 Thinkamancers

(T-T/ T-T-T)

Who then connect to another link or links to assist *that* thinkamancer, allowing the casters to use more than one discipline. Making it so that the Summon perfect warlord spell is a three caster spell, but has more than two disciplines. Alternatively, they could just make all the parts of the spell (The search, the summon, the loyalty bind, ETC) separately than use another link, maybe a signamancer (They're mostly used as lawyers, with contracts and the like) to bind them together into one, multi-step spell.
Yeah I agree, Durmatagno. That's more or less what I was getting at. There would be a chain of links, not one big group all in one big link. It would be multiple smaller links connected by links if that makes sense. The spell would be passed down like an assembly line so that the next group can work on it.
El_Chupacabra wrote:
Jay wrote:
El_Chupacabra wrote:


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I assume he's serious, since the first thing I thought when I started (excitedly) reading the new pages was, omg, what happened to the art?

And I did the same thing as he did, not going back and reading the whole thread before posting, so I wasn't sure if I was the only one talking about it.. :?


Yeah, the not sureifserious part was specifically for this:

Kranbe wrote:
maybe this is the wrong thread, but am I the only one who just isn't okay with this art?


I guess I find it bizarre when people read none of 11 pages before posting. Especially since there was comments from almost the very first post.

That read as rather trolltastic if you don't assume they went straight to posting. I personally tend to read at least several pages just to see if there's anything interesting to discuss or to see if my reason to post went answered already. Not to read all pages is one thing, but to not even skim the first page?

*shrugs*
/Is this like Fark where "First Post" becomes "Boobies"?


I could have shortened the quotes here, but I enjoy massive multi-shaded white blocks.

I live in a place where the only internet available is satalite. SO I have a data limit. I just read the first page and posted, so I wouldn't have to load 11 pages
splexis wrote:
Sky Schemer wrote:

It's been 7 months since those epilogues. I don't know about you, but after 7 months I am a little rusty at things.


Malarkey! His initial artwork was just fine. In addition he does web illustration in other venues.


Exactly. Seven months of doing other things that weren't Erfworld. Cut the guy some slack. It's been two pages since the comic started back up.

Actually, three now. And page 3 is definitely a cut above the first two. More than a cut, I'd say.
I would say the same. The characters seem expressive now, which was my chief concern/complaint. :D
Thecommander236 wrote:
Yeah I agree, Durmatagno. That's more or less what I was getting at. There would be a chain of links, not one big group all in one big link. It would be multiple smaller links connected by links if that makes sense. The spell would be passed down like an assembly line so that the next group can work on it.

That's also assuming that a linkup is required to craft a scroll in the first place. We know that when you combine disciplines to cast a spell, you need a linkup. And for the more complicated spell scrolls, a linkup may help because it generally enhances the abilities of the linked casters anyway. But we don't know how scrolls are written. I think it's plausible that it's simply a multi-stage spell that has the scroll "written" by different casters, and when it's "read" by a Caster, they simply end up using different disciplines.
Of course, Summon Perfect Warlord might be a "more complicated" spell scroll that required a linkup in the first place, but it'd explain why it seemingly required so many disciplines to craft it - each step of the spell was written by a Caster of a different discipline, to create something that could be cast (at great difficulty, it's true) by a single Caster at the end.
Kranbe wrote:


I could have shortened the quotes here, but I enjoy massive multi-shaded white blocks.

I live in a place where the only internet available is satalite. SO I have a data limit. I just read the first page and posted, so I wouldn't have to load 11 pages


Ouch. That can't be fun.
abb3w wrote:
Actually, from what little we know of the Perfect Warlord spell, I'd think the logical fifth would be a Carniemancer -- particularly given how Charlie was at least peripheral to the original summoning of Judy Gale. Specifically, using the most basic trick in Carniemancy: “Prob’ly the most common spell in Carnymancy lets you break one rule, for one turn, for one unit.” Charlie imposes the rule change that the Haffaton Thinkamancer (presumed Maxwell), for the one turn, can link up more than two other casters in a link; thus allowing the Thinkamancer to link a Findamancer, Predictamancer, and Lookamancer. Result: one Summon Perfect Warlord spell.

Svankensen wrote:
But you are considering that the limitation on a 3-caster linkup is a rule, and not the impossible skill required to handle such a complex mind amalgamation, wich i think is the case.


More precisely, I'm inferring that as the most parsimonious explanation — and leaving the Thinkamancy-grade epistemological question of "What constitutes a 'rule'?" aside.

Durmatagno wrote:
I lean towards One link of 2-3 Thinkamancers


My initial inclinations were in that direction — or rather, one Thinkamancer linking two of the casters, another linking another caster to the metamind of the link; or even symmetry possibly requiring a total of four regular casters, two linking Thinkamancers, and three linked Thinkamancers to meta-link the two other links.

However, that's not possible with what resources Charlie is reported to have available to work with (and my symmetric speculation even more so). This conjecture results from an attempt to reverse-engineer the spell's casting from the (nearly) absolute fact that a Summon Perfect Warlord spell was cast with resources that Charlie had available between El-Efbaum and Haffaton, and the apparent fact that those resources only included one Thinkamancer, zero Arkendishes — and a Carniemancer.

Kranbe wrote:
I live in a place where the only internet available is satalite. SO I have a data limit. I just read the first page and posted, so I wouldn't have to load 11 pages


I would suggest getting in the habit of using two separate web-browsers -- one with the browser instructed to block images for most sites, intended to be used for browsing forums; the other with images enabled, used more sparingly. The typical user icon takes up about as much bandwidth as all the HTML of the page. I'd also suggest installing FlashBlock, NoScript, or equivalent in all browsers; 99% of flash content is a pointless waste, and it tends very high in bandwidth use.