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DVL wrote:
The thing about D&D is that people like it and then have entirely too serious discussions about it. (What alignment would Harry Potter be? And he's clearly a level 12 Wizard.) The sacred conventions are sacred just because it was written in a damn book and for no other reason. The rules are there to facilitate a game and story. They aren't important into themselves.


Well, the whole nature of nerd-dom is to be over-serious about ultimately-trivial matters. And I say that as a nerd who once compared object under a Fidelius Charm in Harry Potter to Schrodinger's cat.

And no, I didn't come up with that "definition" of a nerd, I owe this to my favourite content creator, bob chhipman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsTfvXnh47c

As is relevant to this discussion, the issue is not whether or not someone is being over-serious about anything, but whether they are being rude about whatever they are being over-serious about.
Belrodes wrote:

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I was upset, for instance, that Tarquin was defeated when V showed back up with a full spell list, pushed him over the edge of an airship, and then he sat still for several rounds until Elan could knock him off the side. This was a villain who had been fully capable of overpowering most of the party by himself through his superior tactics and physical strength, and he lost with almost no fight whatsoever. It felt like a cheap way to discard such an interesting character.

I agree. That was a terrible ending.
vivalakevolution wrote:
tl;dr Guns give specials via Weirdomancy, the spell allows casting which isn't the same as giving a special.


3D Glasses have shown Jack having the special of "Foolama<snip>", so it might be possible to use Weirdomancy to give a Caster special.
Can I just point out how weird it seems for Bunny to not remember when she last stacked for combat? It seems like eidetic memory is a standard-issue Thinkamancer ability, and a master-class Thinkamancer ought to have that for sure. It seems like she should either remember perfectly the last time she stacked up, or she's actually never been stacked.
Anomynous 167 wrote:
Belrodes wrote:

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I was upset, for instance, that Tarquin was defeated when V showed back up with a full spell list, pushed him over the edge of an airship, and then he sat still for several rounds until Elan could knock him off the side. This was a villain who had been fully capable of overpowering most of the party by himself through his superior tactics and physical strength, and he lost with almost no fight whatsoever. It felt like a cheap way to discard such an interesting character.

I agree. That was a terrible ending.


That was the point. Tarquin always thought of himself as a main villain of his son's story, an evil overlord who would be remembered forever. He was always a side story, readers forgot that at their own peril. As for V beating him easily, Tarquin never fought V at full power. In fact, I don't remember him facing V in combat at all. Never forget how OP mages are. Tarquin was tank/bruiser/bard as a leader in his team. All those things make him bad at facing a long range mage which is V.
youngstormlord wrote:
Anomynous 167 wrote:
Belrodes wrote:

Spoiler: show
I was upset, for instance, that Tarquin was defeated when V showed back up with a full spell list, pushed him over the edge of an airship, and then he sat still for several rounds until Elan could knock him off the side. This was a villain who had been fully capable of overpowering most of the party by himself through his superior tactics and physical strength, and he lost with almost no fight whatsoever. It felt like a cheap way to discard such an interesting character.

I agree. That was a terrible ending.


That was the point. Tarquin always thought of himself as a main villain of his son's story, an evil overlord who would be remembered forever. He was always a side story, readers forgot that at their own peril. As for V beating him easily, Tarquin never fought V at full power. In fact, I don't remember him facing V in combat at all. Never forget how OP mages are. Tarquin was tank/bruiser/bard as a leader in his team. All those things make him bad at facing a long range mage which is V.

You do realise that the entire point of me making that post was to quote Tarkin, right?
So in rereading updates, I realized I missed something. And I can't find the thing I missed.

Why can't Bunny talk?
canterrain wrote:
So in rereading updates, I realized I missed something. And I can't find the thing I missed.

Why can't Bunny talk?

The GMs sealed her ability to speak, along with a bunch of Thinkamancy channels, when she became a baddie so she couldn't spread any more Thinkamantic secrets.
Ah hah! Thanks. I missed the one line about losing speech, and just never put it together that she never communicated through speech.
Belrodes wrote:
I was upset, for instance, that Tarquin was defeated when V showed back up with a full spell list, pushed him over the edge of an airship, and then he sat still for several rounds until Elan could knock him off the side. This was a villain who had been fully capable of overpowering most of the party by himself through his superior tactics and physical strength, and he lost with almost no fight whatsoever. It felt like a cheap way to discard such an interesting character.


(Is there an off-topic section on this forum?)
Not only was Tarquin certain, as was pointed out, that he was the big bad of his son's story; he was also certain that this status meant that the final showdown would have to be T versus Elan. V was just a distraction, worth ignoring.

T was not trying to defeat Elan -- or V -- in that scene.
T was trying to get Elan interested in fighting him.

I did not see it as a "Cheap way to discard an interesting character".
I fully expect T to make at least one more appearance over there when they do reach the final gate.

In Erf terms:
First: T thought that fate ruled life, and he was fated to have a big battle with his son, that he would lose. And he was OK with fate saying he was going to die, because he knew he was leaving behind a larger legacy. Compare that to Charlie, who knows that fate is after him, and he's doing everything he can to twist, delay, or deny fate, knowing that it cannot last forever.

Second: what side have we seen that has been "written off", that will come back and become a major thorn in the future?

Can't be FAQ -- it did not get written off since Parson arrived (it was written off before he arrived).