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Soulman wrote:
Hitchkok wrote:
Ceasar wasn't kidding when he thoght the rifle was gonna change transylvito's whole business - Transylvito style of fighting, you may recall, is Warlord+bats. which is I assume effective for the options they have, but cannot utilize the guns properly. so they're probably gonna be poping a lot more infantry. or, at least, units that can hold a gun a squeeze a trigger.

Why not upgrade current style? Strike teams of flying rifle-armed warlords screened by hordes of bats with high bonuses. Seems to be quite a decent setup.

because why wield one rifle per stack when you can wield eight?
not to mention that normally you would want your commanders to be able to focus on th entire battle, not just their own target.
Hitchkok wrote:
Soulman wrote:
Hitchkok wrote:
Ceasar wasn't kidding when he thoght the rifle was gonna change transylvito's whole business - Transylvito style of fighting, you may recall, is Warlord+bats. which is I assume effective for the options they have, but cannot utilize the guns properly. so they're probably gonna be poping a lot more infantry. or, at least, units that can hold a gun a squeeze a trigger.

Why not upgrade current style? Strike teams of flying rifle-armed warlords screened by hordes of bats with high bonuses. Seems to be quite a decent setup.

because why wield one rifle per stack when you can wield eight?
not to mention that normally you would want your commanders to be able to focus on th entire battle, not just their own target.

Well, as far as I understand it, stack bonus is just maxed on 8. So, it could be several stacks of 8 rifle-armed warlords, each with it's own bat retinue :)
Free Radical wrote:
MntlOrgnsmDsgndOnlfrFangirling wrote:
zilfallon wrote:

We don't know if archons can be promoted to warlords, though.

We might be about to find out, if bonnie is as competent as she seems to be, Stanley might promote her!

If she already has leadership 4 as part of her archon levelling giving her random specials, and if we assume it was possible to promote her to a warlord, which seems to give leadership equal to level, could she actually end up with a ridiculous leadership bonus of 13?

On http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%203/136 it says that he leadership bonus is "4 lower than her unit level of 9", so her leadership bonus is 5. That is mentioned as a contrast to regular warlords. My guess is that Archons with the leadership special give a bonus equal to unit_level/2 rounded down, and regular warlords units provide a leadership bonus equal to their unit level +/- special bonuses.
Neceros wrote:
Thecommander236 wrote:
Wonderful, you are first submission. Contest details are in Everything Else Erfworld. But for everyone else, private message me when you make a story.


I, uh, feel that I should point out that that wasn't my submission. I was just drawing your attention to robc's work. Don't wanna take credit from where it's due.


I got it, I got it. Still would have preferred a private message but okay.
╒╦╧╬╩╦╦╛ wrote:
I like the part where she tell him to kill stanley before he spends their treasury.

Imagine that situation:

Bunny: Stanley wants to negociate Hamster's ransom.
Don King: We'll make him an offer he cannot accept. I want a MILLION SCHMUCKERS *doctor Evil move*
Bunny: Very well.

...


Clearly, his opening price should have been One Hundred Billion Schmuckers!

Err ... if a schmucker is about 10 cents, then start at TEN MILLION SCHMUCKERS
Neceros wrote:
wih wrote:
While I do like the idea of the buzzing being significant, especially in the light of the buzzing that Parson experienced prior to him turning to Charlescomm, however any overt Thinkamancy on him would have almost certainly been noticed by the two dozen decrypted Archons they had.


Or Maggie, for that matter. I do like that theory, though.

Good points. Yeah, basically, it's a detail I feel is significant, but I don't really know what that significance might be. It may simply be an indication that a unit that started a basic infantry really isn't mentally equipped to run a side in the same way a unit that starts as a warlord would be. I hadn't considered that Maggie and the Archons would probably be able to detect anything but the most subtle of Thinkamancy on him.

themunck wrote:
Mrtyuh wrote:
themunck wrote:
Don King is a royal whom Bunny says considered Saline his friend (why? They weren't allies or anything. Maybe they'd bonded over their mutual love of meritocracy), and now he's back to being all high-and-mighty royal, large due to Jillian's success which is due to Charlie's support.....meh, probably coincidences, the timing doesn't add up.

Slately was Don's friend. Bunny simply mentioned Saline as yet another Royal whose croaking they lay at Stanley's feet.

Not quite. Her exact words that Don King was fond of King Saline IV.

She also said that Don was fond of mountains. Don was fond of every Royal croaked, except Banhammer. Remember, Saline had Stanley raze Aqua Velva twice while he was king. That doesn't strike me as friendly relations. Anyway, I while we know Don was genuinely fond of Bea and Slately, I interpreted the comment regarding Saline to be hyperbole. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Dyneamaeus wrote:


Now, to be fair here, Royal's are superior, in the long run at least. They level faster, they have better growth, and are the only(that we know of) units built in Families. That means that, all other things being equal, a royal side popping royal units will become stronger than a non-royal side. While that definitely promotes narcissism, it's still a fact.

As far as Jillian is concerned, I think maybe she's doing so for reasons other than royalism. I don't believe Don's teatime speech got to her. Maybe an "I'm doing this stupid thing so I'll do it right."
Of course, it's probably not like that at all but.....I hope.

Tramennis on the other hand is too cool for Royal stupidity. I agree he'll probably be the one to bring back good Royalism.


I don't think Royalism is necessarily superior. I think it is that old adage of specialization vs versatility. A side that pops royal is going to have a good deal of specialist units that are great at their jobs, but by limiting itself to popping royals it lacks the versatility that could come from popping what is needed instead of what is good.
Nightseraph wrote:
MntlOrgnsmDsgndOnlfrFangirling wrote:
Nightseraph wrote:

What makes you think he doesn't have a carny spell at ready, that can promote noncommanders to heir in a crisis?



Do we have anything indicating that non-commanders cannot be promoted to heir?


No, but every single heir we've seen has been a commander, and even units that started as noncommanders specifically were promoted before becoming heir.
Why do you think they can be, as a question? The burden of proof should be on the far less likely outcome.


Remember that the Overlord could likely just promote Random Stabber #47 to Warlord, then to Heir; as long as they're a type of unit that can be made into a Commander, it should be fine.
Man, so much speculation, yet none on
Don King wrote:
we learned a few things, listening to [the prisoners].

Did they hear the Jillian stories? Or did they hear the real conversation too. I guess it's cool if they know Faq's Turnamancer works for Charlie.And Parson knows a Signamancer. And Parson wasn't popped knowing the rules. And was in blue raiment. And is weak to loneliness.

Aaaahhhh! No it's not!
A little late, but Sunny: It says that Bonnie has a leadership "OF 4", not that it's "4 lower than 9"