Book 3 - Page 135

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Book 3 - Page 135
Comic - Book 3 - Page 135
 
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The Erfworld units with the rifles are firing single shots with greater skill while Parson is using the rifle's full potential by firing in bursts.

The rifle looks like that due to all the modern techniques and attitudes that went into its design. burst and fully auto fire were included because it was understood that the concept of firepower and rate of fire were important strategic and tactical doctrines. It would be understood by any person in Stupidworld that people would be trained to fire multiple shots at once just by looking at this accessory.

Erfworlders lack that understanding. To paraphrase a character from another comic: "This...could have only come from...(people)...that had access to...(it)...just handed to them rather than it evolving naturally!"

Parson, a civilian who has never fired a gun, can still understand these basic principals of Stupidworld and can then apply them to the Erfworld accessory whose Signamancy resembles a modern rifle from Stupidworld. (Is there a tech tree!?) Thus, while untrained, Parson knows to fire the weapon in bursts.

Erfworld units on the other hand fire single shot, just as if they were handed a particularly good bow (or crossbow?) and think nothing of how else they could attack with it.

However, very importantly, Erfworlders can be trained to fire multiple shots at once. Charlie's Archons did fire in bursts and/or used auto-fire during their fight. It's possible Charlie had known something about the inherent meaning (or Signamancy to Erfworlders) of accessory he was handing out to all [BIG GAME CLEARANCE] Archons and gave instructions accordingly when he issued them...

If they can be trained to fire like Stupidworld soldiers they might also perhaps be trained to move and think like Stupidworld soldiers as well. (Fight like skirmishers, find cover, move from cover to cover, don't bunch up, move as a group while still dispersed and spread out, show initiative in meeting objectives)

Parson would understand that. Thus, the inherent Signamancy of the accessory ushers forth a new and potentially horrible period of Modern Warfare.

Citation
http://www.errantstory.com/2010-09-02/4929 (first panel, bottom bubble)

ADDENDUM: Just one interesting application of this theory: Charlie's Archons are able to receive a leadership bonus from Charlie via Thinkamancy using the Dish when he personally directs a battle. Perhaps an accessory, with the Signamancy of a Military Radio, that uses Thinkamancy in a similar fashion, could be created and issued to units to mimic that ability.
Dystopianman wrote:

Erfworlders lack that understanding. To paraphrase a character from another comic: "This...could have only come from...(people)...that had access to...(it)...just handed to them rather than it evolving naturally!"

They only know how to use those at all because of the Weirdomancy in the gun. Maybe Charlie forgot to put some stuff in?

The quote, is it from Errant Story?
ManaCaster wrote:


The quote, is it from Errant Story?


Yep, it's Meiji after she fuses with the essence of a god giving her Cthulhu entity levels of awareness and knowledge.
Dystopianman wrote:
The Erfworld units with the rifles are firing single shots with greater skill while Parson is using the rifle's full potential by firing in bursts.
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while untrained, Parson knows to fire the weapon in bursts.

Erfworld units on the other hand fire single shot, just as if they were handed a particularly good bow (or crossbow?) and think nothing of how else they could attack with it.

However, very importantly, Erfworlders can be trained to fire multiple shots at once. Charlie's Archons did fire in bursts and/or used auto-fire during their fight.

Yeah, dunno, maybe.
Good pickup on the difference in fire patterns, but I'm not sure of the expansion, because Lilith was never trained in firearms, but she fired a burst the first time she fired a rifle, and double tapped the first time she fired a pistol. (Book 3 p96, p98)
It doesn't look like single shots are a better choice. They're not hitting with every shot, and it didn't seem like a time to be conserving ammo. But, I'm not military, so could be wrong?
Maybe it's not an intentional difference, just an artistic choice for the number of lines on different parts of the page?
Nightseraph wrote:
I blame Artemis. Where are the rest of those infantry?

She's not CWL. Can't command units that aren't in her own stack.
Dante wrote:
Nightseraph wrote:
I blame Artemis. Where are the rest of those infantry?

She's not CWL. Can't command units that aren't in her own stack.

It's never jelled to me that Warlords are assumed unable to command units they aren't stacked with. They must have the ability to issue combat orders without giving their Leadership bonus, otherwise they wouldn't be able to form stacks when told to select for certain stats, like move or remaining hits. Warlords have to be able to command units that aren't in their stack in some capacity.
Thecommander236 wrote:


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CarniDollMancer wrote:
Dante wrote:
Nightseraph wrote:
I blame Artemis. Where are the rest of those infantry?

She's not CWL. Can't command units that aren't in her own stack.

It's never jelled to me that Warlords are assumed unable to command units they aren't stacked with. They must have the ability to issue combat orders without giving their Leadership bonus, otherwise they wouldn't be able to form stacks when told to select for certain stats, like move or remaining hits. Warlords have to be able to command units that aren't in their stack in some capacity.


Captain Ford led the hopeless battle against Tramennis, and he was never CWL. Wrigley's stack only began to engage automatically once all GK warlords in the hex were dead. In fact, we see that he is subject to the commands of other commanders within his hex whether or not they are even warlords. Otherwise you'd need warlords to pop extremely often due to the low stack limit of 8 and cities' abilities to pop multiple stabbers at once.

http://archives.erfworld.com/Book%202/84
Pete wrote:
Dystopianman wrote:
The Erfworld units with the rifles are firing single shots with greater skill while Parson is using the rifle's full potential by firing in bursts.
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while untrained, Parson knows to fire the weapon in bursts.

Erfworld units on the other hand fire single shot, just as if they were handed a particularly good bow (or crossbow?) and think nothing of how else they could attack with it.

However, very importantly, Erfworlders can be trained to fire multiple shots at once. Charlie's Archons did fire in bursts and/or used auto-fire during their fight.


Good pickup on the difference in fire patterns, but I'm not sure of the expansion, because Lilith was never trained in firearms, but she fired a burst the first time she fired a rifle, and double tapped the first time she fired a pistol.

Maybe it's not an intentional difference, just an artistic choice for the number of lines on different parts of the page?


This is true, Lilith previously had no idea about modern firearms yet was able to utilize them very effectively. Perhaps with the new comic information, that implies something about the "knight-class" and how flexible in thinking they can be. Or maybe Lilith is just individually talented.

It has been very well established since the beginning of this comic that the art of the comic would play a very significant part in conveying information about the world and story. I would imagine that unless the artists outright come out and say they made a mistake on one of their panels, one should assume that each part of the art is story driven.
I had a fun thought over the weekend. Hobbittm will somehow be involved with Charlie's defeat. Maybe that's kicked off due to the eye witness testimony of that caster, maybe not. Either way, the Arkendish ends up in Froblo's possession just to set up this joke:

"Hi, I'm Froblo, and I have the Arkendish."

"And I'm dittomancy duplicate Froblo, and I have cable."