Book 3 - Page 131

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Book 3 - Page 131
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drachefly wrote:
Xellos wrote:
This thread's going in a weird direction... Rob better post that update before people start submitting R34.


The 3 fingers comment seems to me to qualify already (not that I am requesting moderator action).

At least there's no cheese pizza (yet).
Time to re-read the archive! :D

(Or Re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-read)
F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...F5...


:cry:
I'm not addicted, I can quit reading Erfworld any time I want to.

I just don't want to. :D


Edit: It updated!
Beeskee wrote:
I'm not addicted, I can quit reading Erfworld any time I want to.

I just don't want to. :D


Edit: It updated!
kthxbai
Dewey the Signamancer wrote:
Ozamataz Buckshank wrote:
kaay wrote:
Also, he's a Stupidworlder - what really counts as fulfillment of the Prediction in his case?

We don't know he's a Stupidworlder; the fact that he calls Charlescomm's power source Shockmancy instead of electricity is a pretty strong indication to the contrary.

Nice catch on the Shockmancy bit. A small and subtle detail but it could be very meaningful. Come to think of it I don't think there was anything in his thoughts that indicated he was from Stupidworld, no references or thoughts about the real world. No signs of modern knowledge or the like.
I have noticed, but assumed he may have just taken to the term. It's shorter - "shocked" vs "powered" or "electrified", and the two may not even be exactly the same thing.
O.K., he needn't be from the same Stupidworld, and I admit that aside from the "Wizard of Oz" bit, the tech Signamancy, presumed understanding of Parson's pop culture references and interest in chicken reproduction mechanics, I don't have much to support my hypothesis.
And I still have no idea what to make of Charlie's response to "Yeah, yeah. You're a wizard, Harry", beyond presuming HP came out after he had left.
Satherian wrote:
people have also refuted this claim because Charlie has Treasury sense, while Parson does not.
Now THAT is more solid - but again, the summoning spell was botched.
EmpactWB wrote:
Infidel wrote:
kaylasdad99 wrote:
*If Parson does object on ethical grounds, let him be the unit that gets dittoed.


And this makes it better how?


Because then he's testing it on himself instead of on a unit that can't volunteer.


What choice does the ditto have? I understood that as the ethical problem. It doesn't matter who you ditto, that ditto is at least temporarily a real person.
Infidel wrote:
EmpactWB wrote:

Because then he's testing it on himself instead of on a unit that can't volunteer.


What choice does the ditto have? I understood that as the ethical problem. It doesn't matter who you ditto, that ditto is at least temporarily a real person.

I assume that, like Slately, a Ditto of Parson after he volunteers to be the Ditto test subject would be created with his mindset and decisions; it would essentially create a Ditto that volunteered to be created for the purpose of the test.
EmpactWB wrote:
Infidel wrote:
EmpactWB wrote:

Because then he's testing it on himself instead of on a unit that can't volunteer.


What choice does the ditto have? I understood that as the ethical problem. It doesn't matter who you ditto, that ditto is at least temporarily a real person.

I assume that, like Slately, a Ditto of Parson after he volunteers to be the Ditto test subject would be created with his mindset and decisions; it would essentially create a Ditto that volunteered to be created for the purpose of the test.


Yea, see I this kind of thing in stories and I just don't see it going smoothly. I read a Sci-fi book about a future where people would accept pay to have a copy of themselves replicated on a frontier planet. Yea, not fun for the copy that doesn't perceive herself in any way as a copy.

To volunteer a person would pretty much have to volunteer them-self. If someone volunteers a copy of themselves then that means inside they aren't really accepting the risk to themselves. So when the copy is made, and the copy realizes that IT has to go into the portal of doom things stop going smoothly.

Like I said, I don't see that it matters who the ditto is made from. Once that ditto is made, it is effectively a whole person and due the same moral treatment as any other person for the duration of its existence. There is no moral difference between ordering an original unit to enter a portal that may end its existence and ordering a ditto of a unit into a portal that might end its existence.
Fair enough. I'm not sure that I'd consider a temporary duplicate as a whole person, but I can see the logic and it's well reasoned. Kudos.