Book 3 - Page 12

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ryuplaneswalker wrote:
drachefly wrote:
ManaCaster wrote:
Jillian would be able to leave it.


Is her turn before or after GK's?


It goes Alphabetical doesn't it?

FAQ would be before Gobwin Knob.



... I never noticed that.
Transylvito goes before GK, so it can't be alphabetical. See here for citation.
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... I never noticed that.


Nothing personal but your avatar feels so appropriate right now :lol:.

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Transylvito goes before GK, so it can't be alphabetical. See here for citation.


They'd be allied with Charlescom and they do go before GK, we don't really know how turn order is decided with alliances.
They weren't allied with CharlesComm though, because of Parson's deal. Caesar and the gang were still able to get into position at the crack of dawn before GK got their turn.

I think book 1 established that alliances go with the latest turn order, but I can't find the page on a quick scan so I may be making it up.
90% sure that alliances take turn order with the slowest member of the alliance. Also, I had the impression that turn order was determined by the strength of the side, the weaker you are, the sooner you move. Although that might be unfounded speculation on my part.

As for unfounded speculation:
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One of Queen's hits is Killer Queen. Although if it came down to it, my guess is she croaks Ansom if she kills anyone.
Rob established in a GitP forum post that turn order is a static condition which never changes except for alliances, which take turn with the slowest member.

Edit: As an aside, it would be kinda silly if Gobwin Knob, at its weakest ebb, was somehow stronger than Transylvito and Charlescomm.
Keighvin1 wrote:
Rob established in a GitP forum post that turn order is a static condition which never changes except for alliances, which take turn with the slowest member.

Edit: As an aside, it would be kinda silly if Gobwin Knob, at its weakest ebb, was somehow stronger than Transylvito and Charlescomm.



Yeah, I kinda have to agree on that P.S. And thanks for the info on turn order. Apart from alliance, are there other things that can affect turn order globally? High turnamancy, specific buildings in the capital, or such?
El Chupacabra wrote:
Um.... What happens to Maggie and Wanda if Charlie and Vanna succeed in using a link to overcome Ansom's resistance to Turning?
This is a very interesting question. As someone else pointed out, it's unlikely since Charlie seems to have something else in mind, but it's an interesting idea to consider.
Waggie is looking through his eyes not because he's a GK unit, but because he's Decrypted. I agree that losing him would shake up Wanda's confidence like it did with Ossomer, but it didn't cause her Incapacitating trauma then, so I doubt it'd cause a break. And, I suspect that even as an enemy unit, they STILL might be able to see through him and speak with him. I imagine his mental state and loyalty would be altered, but we have a precedent for that. Even after being Decrypted, the Archons still had a lingering "affection" for Charlie. So I don't think Tool bonds are so easily broken, there is still a foothold that could be exploited. Turning Ansom would actually be a very dangerous move for Charlie, as he risks being double-crossed, a risk I think he's smart enough to suspect, especially if he's gotten custody of Lilith again by now.
0beron wrote:
Waggie is looking through his eyes not because he's a GK unit, but because he's Decrypted. I agree that losing him would shake up Wanda's confidence like it did with Ossomer, but it didn't cause her Incapacitating trauma then, so I doubt it'd cause a break. And, I suspect that even as an enemy unit, they STILL might be able to see through him and speak with him. I imagine his mental state and loyalty would be altered, but we have a precedent for that. Even after being Decrypted, the Archons still had a lingering "affection" for Charlie. So I don't think Tool bonds are so easily broken, there is still a foothold that could be exploited. Turning Ansom would actually be a very dangerous move for Charlie, as he risks being double-crossed, a risk I think he's smart enough to suspect, especially if he's gotten custody of Lilith again by now.


OTOH, when Ossomer turned, he seemed to turn pretty completely from the outward indications, anyway. I don't know if the manner of the turning makes a difference or not.

http://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/164 panel 4
Davre wrote:
OTOH, when Ossomer turned, he seemed to turn pretty completely from the outward indications, anyway. I don't know if the manner of the turning makes a difference or not.
http://archives.erfworld.com/Book+2/164 panel 4
Agreed, I'm not saying Ansom would be treacherous of his own volition. When one turns, they're going to be Loyal to the new Side. But the Archons' mental state tells us there was still affection for Charlie, which Wanda could try to utilize. She wouldn't be able to order him anymore....but she might manipulate him emotionally. We've seen ample evidence that Love overrides the Natural Thinkamancies when it's strong enough, so the bond a Tool creates might be stronger than Loyalty (in the right situations). That's all I'm suggesting.