Book 3 - Page 113

"Action on 40, Charlie."

Book 3 - Page 113
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ManaCaster wrote:
...maybe we should start speculating on whether dinosaur fossils were planted by aliens.


[sarcasm]But Google has links that say they were, so it must be true. Anything else is impossible![/sarcasm]
I need to add. I really like the art on this strip. I have found I have gone back to it many times. Everyone's emotions are apparent, and the lighting adds to the atmosphere.

Lilith ,dusty and a little bruised, but as determined as ever, completing mission impossible.
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We do know. They die. See Bea.

Portals destroy every non-caster "living" thing that passes from side to MK. I.e. they destroy golems, but not accessories or things. Golems can pass freely from MK to a side, but not vice versa.

It's plausible that living things can traverse MK-> Side. But vice versa is impossible.


Actually no. We do not know that she died. We know that she disbanded. Disbanding is something that has been purposefully left 'vague' by the comic writers thus far. We assume that when it happens it is like being wiped from existence or at least the plain of Erfworld.
There is a possibility that disbanding sends you to another plane (or one of several) where you continue your life with the memories of Erfworld if you were a natural Erfworld inhabitant.
Gorgon wrote:
ManaCaster wrote:
...maybe we should start speculating on whether dinosaur fossils were planted by aliens.


[sarcasm]But Google has links that say they were, so it must be true. Anything else is impossible![/sarcasm]

[ambiguously sarcastic\serious] You seem to be neglecting the fact that it was Saint George that wiped out the dinosears. [/ambiguously sarcastic\serious]
All I know is, I'ma laugh if we still don't find out the answer to whether non-caster Decrypted can pass portals or not because it becomes moot when Charlie gets croaked by the storm hex or betrayed by Tondelayo or something. Incidentally that would also mean that all of Parson's "allies" in the Magic Kingdom would now be out to get him before he could physically travel to CC and claim the spoils. He might be needing those guns sooner than he thinks.
ManaCaster wrote:

Jeeze. Nothing. Absolutely nothing can ever be completely proven. For all we know, we're all plugged into the matrix. But if we're going to go that far into the improbable, then maybe we should start speculating on whether dinosaur fossils were planted by aliens. Is there really nothing more interesting to discuss?

I'm not discussing RL though, I'm discussing Erfworld, where portals exist and where we've seen people teleported to and from places other than between Erfworld and the Magic Kingdom. And considering dinosaur fossils in Erfworld would have been planted there by the Titans of Ark I'd say my theory that portals work like portals but just send normal non-casters somewhere else is pretty damn probable! :P
-D- wrote:
Sure, but affiliated Natural Allies do. I don't see some sleazeball not trying to sneak a Troll into MK.

So... Maybe I missed something, but when did anyone argue that twolls could pass through Portals? I don't think we've ever seen a twoll with a Magic special...
peteratjet wrote:

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If a Charlescomm trap is triggered by a GK unit and causes damage, who pays the fine?
We actually sort of have the answer to this - the reason why Lilith is carrying around a dead archon is because she blew herself up to keep Lilith from triggering a trap and costing CK the schmuckers.

.. due to Lily coming to harm. I think the question was more "If Lily triggers a CC trap with a ranged weapon, trap damages units, who is responsible for the damage to those units?"
David Hunt wrote:
The RPG didn’t cause that damage. The Shockamancy trap she triggered with it did.

Possibly. Or, neither side is responsible for indirect effects. The volcano trap caster combo did NOT receive double digits of new levels. Either way, the answer yields some exploitable mechanic that Charlie surely knows and we do not.

Keybounce wrote:
One big question for Charlie has to be: Is it worth $5 million to stop Lilith?

She has just succeeded, so there is less threat remaining. She also retains her value as bait.

Gathrun wrote:
the bigger you are, the larger the amount that is material to you

I'd tip you if I had anything. While this is more of a magnitude- than a threshold- thing, it's just the definition I'd expect Charlie to encode into the contract while Parson is thinking of another.

Shashakiro wrote:
This of course creates the anomaly of Parson being both a Warlord and a Caster

Wasn't Wanda a Chief Warlord in the past?

ftl wrote:
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They knew you can't move between city zones off-turn, such as Airspace to Garrison.

And you still can't move, you can only fall. Parson didn't say "Hey guys just fly down and land, I guess nobody ever tried that."
(...) investigating what exactly the portals disband(...)

Yeah, that's the thing: finding out what EXACTLY can't be done, rather than the more general thing people believe can't be done as a consequence of seeing only the one path to that result.


A-nyway: the wild speculation has served its purpose of pointing out the many things that are not certain. And anything that isn't proven beyond a shadow of doubt can be false, personal incredulity is of limited value when "that's what they want you to think" does, occasionally, hold true. Consider what Charlie'd do if he found a way to send CCPoppedArchons through CCPortal. Advertise it?

We can't distinguish between the definitely impossible and somehow possible scenarios. And with as many uncertainties as there are in Erfworld, surprises are probable.
I'll wait for story developments.
kaay wrote:
~A lot of things about assumptions being just that~

Parson and Charlie both have an advantage over others because they don't always accept the assumed facts. Parson tests or question those assumptions all the time, and Charlie seems to as well.

One example was:
kaay wrote:
David Hunt wrote:
The RPG didn’t cause that damage. The Shockamancy trap she triggered with it did.

Possibly. Or, neither side is responsible for indirect effects. The volcano trap caster combo did NOT receive double digits of new levels. Either way, the answer yields some exploitable mechanic that Charlie surely knows and we do not.

As mentioned in another reaction topic, almost everyone (except CC and GK) assumes the volcano was a trap, but it was explained in LIAB Prologue 1 to be something different, and Charlie figured it out.

In TBFGK 142, Sizemore even says:
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I actually modified the terrain type, like a Titan.


*Edits* And as far as what the term "Material Harm" means, I find it easiest to think of it as "harm that matters" to the victim or situation. Immaterial being stuff that doesn't matter.

We have different laws and court systems to handle various "levels" of how material a crime is, like theft over/under X amount, and judges to decide things that aren't so easy to define. Erf has magic and intent of both sides instead (at least in the case of the contract). Saves on legal fees and court time if nothing else.
:P

The contract has one extra word in it that could really mess with how people interpret it, and that is "attempt". Accidental harm could be exempt because there was no intent to harm when it happened, and it was a side effect of actions. How that can be exploited is not easy to guess, especially when traps (or RPGs used to make holes) are involved.
Did Charlie use the magic kingdom portal to power the city and tech? Would explain the some of the portal defenses, and near complete isolation from the rest of the city. Otherwise, why would a missile under the portal room pawn the place?