Book 2 - Page 35

Book 2 - Page 35
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davesnothere wrote:

With respect to Erfworld, Parson is a creature\\\unit that exists there because of a powerful magic summoning spell.


Parson is a Yu Gi Oh card dropped into a Catan game.
Considering situations like this one, I'd say that's the perfect analogy. :D
Sandwich jokes, what makes an caster a caster, levitating squirrels ...

...We SERIOUSLY need a new update.
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DevilDan wrote:
Whispri wrote:
DevilDan wrote:
What does Charlie gain from having GK take Faq exactly?

The removal of a competing side of Mercenaries. While a barbarian warband did survive Faq's fall, it rapidly diminshed in potency judging by this.

So was the thinkagram anonymous, I wonder?

If it's Charlie identifying himself as Charlie, he'd sell the information to Stanley. And if he couldn't sell it GK, why not sell it to, say, Transylvito?

Well it could be considered wise of any Overlord plotting the downfall of a Royal side to keep their involvement quiet.

As for Translyvyto, convincing the Don King to strike at an unknown side of unknown strength is easier said then done. And then there's Don's preference for extortion to consider. If he just demanded money from Banhammer, then as sure as night follows day Faq would have been forced to take on more mercenary contracts in order to pay him.
Whispri wrote:
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DevilDan wrote:
So was the thinkagram anonymous, I wonder?

If it's Charlie identifying himself as Charlie, he'd sell the information to Stanley. And if he couldn't sell it GK, why not sell it to, say, Transylvito?

Well it could be considered wise of any Overlord plotting the downfall of a Royal side to keep their involvement quiet.

As for Translyvyto, convincing the Don King to strike at an unknown side of unknown strength is easier said then done. And then there's Don's preference for extortion to consider. If he just demanded money from Banhammer, then as sure as night follows day Faq would have been forced to take on more mercenary contracts in order to pay him.


I bet you it wouldn't be a hard sell to get Transylvito to bite, actually; Faq survived not by strength but by stealth. Faq was a ripe plum: better to take it before it's taken by Jitterati or Gobwin Knob. GK, on the other hand, had just defeated a coalition of nations that had it badly outnumbered. And Carpool is an opponent they can't just wipe out easily, as they could have with Faq... particularly once Charlie told Don King when Jill was out on a mission, which he could easily ascertain through the use of veiled archons.

Border skirmishes are probably a constant on Erf. Being able to get three cities free and clear that play well to Transylvito's air superiority and can be easily defended: my guess Don King would have thought long and hard, but he would have moved.
DevilDan wrote:
I bet you it wouldn't be a hard sell to get Transylvito to bite, actually; Faq survived not by strength but by stealth. Faq was a ripe plum: better to take it before it's taken by Jitterati or Gobwin Knob. GK, on the other hand, had just defeated a coalition of nations that had it badly outnumbered. And Carpool is an opponent they can't just wipe out easily, as they could have with Faq... particularly once Charlie told Don King when Jill was out on a mission, which he could easily ascertain through the use of veiled archons.

Border skirmishes are probably a constant on Erf. Being able to get three cities free and clear that play well to Transylvito's air superiority and can be easily defended: my guess Don King would have thought long and hard, but he would have moved.

I dunno, Faq almost certainly had considerable spell defences and unlike Stanley the Don King can't replace his losses by spending a few turns hunting. So it all comes down to guessing what the price would be. Would really be worth the effort to take and hold those Cities when the safer option of demanding tribute is available?
"Almost certainly?" That's more of a guess. I bet it wouldn't be beyond Charlie's capabilities to find all that out, on the other hand.

Potential losses are part of the "game." What we do know is that Faq only managed to survive thanks to Jill's mercenary work. I don't think they'd be able to pay much to Transylvito. That's a low opportunity cost vs. the potential gains, if only from razing the cities.
Well there's no reason to think they neglected any aspect of defensive sorcery. Now the idea that Charlie could perform a close inspection on a side with a Predictamancer and a Foolmancer (who, like Archons, can see through veils) without being rumbled? That requires Charlie to be perfect and Faq to be hopelessly inept.

The mercenary work was a last resort not their primary source of income. Yes, it might take a while for a protection racket to bring in more money than just sacking the place, but it would happen in time. And the Cities would still be there to plunder at a later date.
Whispri wrote:
Well there's no reason to think they neglected any aspect of defensive sorcery. Now the idea that Charlie could perform a close inspection on a side with a Predictamancer and a Foolmancer (who, like Archons, can see through veils) without being rumbled? That requires Charlie to be perfect and Faq to be hopelessly inept.


A couple of reasons: the aforementioned limits on resources, and their reliance on stealth and remaining undetected. And Charlie is nothing if not resourceful. Just ask GK's gobwins.

Whispri wrote:
The mercenary work was a last resort not their primary source of income. Yes, it might take a while for a protection racket to bring in more money than just sacking the place, but it would happen in time. And the Cities would still be there to plunder at a later date.


My point was precisely that: Faq was forced to resort to something that threatens the secrecy they value so highly and that was antithetical to Banhammer's pacifist approach. That's how desperate they were for money.

Yes, in time a few shmuckers would have made their way into Transylvito's treasury, but it's only the new Don King that particularly cares about royalty or kings and queens. The old King could possibly have thought exactly as Caesar has: take the sites, make their own cities.
DevilDan wrote:
A couple of reasons: the aforementioned limits on resources, and their reliance on stealth and remaining undetected. And Charlie is nothing if not resourceful. Just ask GK's gobwins.

My point was precisely that: Faq was forced to resort to something that threatens the secrecy they value so highly and that was antithetical to Banhammer's pacifist approach. That's how desperate they were for money.

Yes, in time a few shmuckers would have made their way into Transylvito's treasury, but it's only the new Don King that particularly cares about royalty or kings and queens. The old King could possibly have thought exactly as Caesar has: take the sites, make their own cities.

Moot point on the spell defences. As for Charlie, even if he can see all and know all, knowing the defences are there won't help to defeat them.

Yes, they sent Jillian out because they needed money, that's not the same thing as being bankrupt. Particularly seeing as she was already out there bringing the loot in.

Pre-insanity Don King was of the "Fools rush in where Translyvyto fears to tread" mindset. Much safer just to ask for tribute. And what if he offered them alliance? A secret ally could be a very useful card to hold.