Book 2 - Page 30

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Dunham wrote:
I for one, to slightly deviate the topic, hope that the wielder of the fourth arkentool isn't Sizemore, or on GK's side at all for that matter. Seems like they've got enough toys, giving it to Sizemore or Parson would just seem a bit much, like doting on the favorite characters.
Sure as hell hope it ain't Jillian.


Weeeeelll..
Wanda Tools makes pliers - http://www.wanda-tools.com/
Stanley Tools makes hammers (amongst other things) - http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp ... IL+HAMMERS
Charlescomm is a communications and public relations company - http://www.charlescomm.com/

"Ansom" is a company that makes sporting cutlery, while "Sizemore" was the name of an early patent holder for shovels. Who knows? It'd be interesting indeed if Ansom attuned to a tool..
Pointyleaf wrote:
Dunham wrote:
I for one, to slightly deviate the topic, hope that the wielder of the fourth arkentool isn't Sizemore, or on GK's side at all for that matter. Seems like they've got enough toys, giving it to Sizemore or Parson would just seem a bit much, like doting on the favorite characters.
Sure as hell hope it ain't Jillian.


Weeeeelll..
Wanda Tools makes pliers - http://www.wanda-tools.com/
Stanley Tools makes hammers (amongst other things) - http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp ... IL+HAMMERS
Charlescomm is a communications and public relations company - http://www.charlescomm.com/

"Ansom" is a company that makes sporting cutlery, while "Sizemore" was the name of an early patent holder for shovels. Who knows? It'd be interesting indeed if Ansom attuned to a tool..


Well Ansom DOES know which fork to use for salads...and eyeballs.
kriss wrote:
Pointyleaf wrote:
Dunham wrote:
I for one, to slightly deviate the topic, hope that the wielder of the fourth arkentool isn't Sizemore, or on GK's side at all for that matter. Seems like they've got enough toys, giving it to Sizemore or Parson would just seem a bit much, like doting on the favorite characters.
Sure as hell hope it ain't Jillian.


Weeeeelll..
Wanda Tools makes pliers - http://www.wanda-tools.com/
Stanley Tools makes hammers (amongst other things) - http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp ... IL+HAMMERS
Charlescomm is a communications and public relations company - http://www.charlescomm.com/

"Ansom" is a company that makes sporting cutlery, while "Sizemore" was the name of an early patent holder for shovels. Who knows? It'd be interesting indeed if Ansom attuned to a tool..


Well Ansom DOES know which fork to use for salads...and eyeballs.


My money's on Jillian's heir seen as he/she is guaranteed to be a important character.
Pointyleaf wrote:
Dunham wrote:
I for one, to slightly deviate the topic, hope that the wielder of the fourth arkentool isn't Sizemore, or on GK's side at all for that matter. Seems like they've got enough toys, giving it to Sizemore or Parson would just seem a bit much, like doting on the favorite characters.
Sure as hell hope it ain't Jillian.


Weeeeelll..
Wanda Tools makes pliers - http://www.wanda-tools.com/
Stanley Tools makes hammers (amongst other things) - http://www.stanleytools.com/default.asp ... IL+HAMMERS
Charlescomm is a communications and public relations company - http://www.charlescomm.com/

"Ansom" is a company that makes sporting cutlery, while "Sizemore" was the name of an early patent holder for shovels. Who knows? It'd be interesting indeed if Ansom attuned to a tool..

Shovel patents nuthin'... Sizemore is right up there in solvent modern corporation territory. ;)

(It would be interesting to see someone new or rarely-used get the fourth unaccounted-for Arkentool, though.)
well, thats interesting. not sure if this has been discussed yet, but why would Charile (who I assume is the one whose taken an interest in the turning) want to see if Ansom could be turned? I only can come up with a few answers.

1) If they can be turned, then its a demension of the game he can implement. It might also suggest his archons can be turned.

2) If they can be turned, he can get his archons back. no upkeep means a lot of money for him. especially if he can get Wanda on his side. pop an archon, kill it, decrypt it, turn it. free archons.

3) Its not Charile.
Ansan Gotti wrote:
Ditto wrote:
That's not entirely true. Turnamancers affect a units loyalty. They jack it up artificially, but it's still a stat that was there to begin with. It's much more accurate to say Ansom was mindraped, since he was rebuilt from the ground up. Duncan was re-educated, or maybe brainwashed, but not hollowed out and started anew.


It's not just a question of jacking up the Loyalty stat, it's diametrically changing WHO the Loyalty stat "reports to." Duncan went from enemy to loyal supporter. So I personally think "mindrape" is pretty accurate.


To the extent that Loyalty and Duty are supernatural influences plaguing every non-Royal in Erfworld from the moment of birth, I think everyone is born "pre-mind-raped" and turnamancy just changes the rapist to whom the victim feels an unnatural Stockholm Syndrome. I have theorized that even the Royals are subject to an unnatural Loyalty and/or Duty to the Titanic Mandate, since Stanley's threat to it has triggered wholly irrational responses in Slately, Ansom, Bea and Vito, the latter of whom has reconfigured his entire theory of rulership in response to TBoGK. I still think that the "breaking the world that leads to peace" that Janice keeps talking about is the breaking of the Duty/Loyalty compulsion and the introduction of free will into Erfworld.
multilis wrote:
I did not write those words but quoted them. Agree with you that Wanda could die. Many classic stories such as Macbeth involve a villain misinterpreting a prophesy.


Wanda might well die if she just "followed prophesy" and expected it to take care of her. Wanda clearly does not do that. She is actively trying to stay alive and follow her fate. Not simply going "I am the Prophesized One!" She also clearly knows that prophesy and fate can be very cloudy and confusing (the last text update showed it clearly).
multilis wrote:
I did not write those words but quoted them. Agree with you that Wanda could die. Many classic stories such as Macbeth involve a villain misinterpreting a prophesy.


I know, and I agree as well. And never trust those prophesies. Personally I like Charlie take on toolism, though I guess Wanda escaping this situation (as I think she will) will reinforce her certainty (just not in Jillian).

Still, as long as no tool dies I guess it is quite possibly they have fate protection immortality, and when/if one dies...

HandofShadows wrote:
Wanda might well die if she just "followed prophesy" and expected it to take care of her. Wanda clearly does not do that. She is actively trying to stay alive and follow her fate. Not simply going "I am the Prophesized One!" She also clearly knows that prophesy and fate can be very cloudy and confusing (the last text update showed it clearly).


Although still not quite to the level Ansom is at. Sure, think fate has your back, but plan, plan, plan like it doesn't.
elNabot wrote:
The Shadow wrote:
Wait, wait, wait. When did Charlie say he'd like to take a crack at Ansom? And if he really does, why did he give Sammy the primary objective of croaking him?

And since Jillian knows the latter, why is she bringing up the former?

Confused!


Maybe someone from the Magic Kingdom is also backing her. This is something to look at in the summer update if i recall well.


Charlie just gave Sammy his marching orders. He had objectives Jil didn't even know about. Jil mentions a backer who isn't Don King. Traemennis would figure it out.
I don't know if it was deliberate, or a tactical error on her part, but she disabused Tramennis of the notion that she had hired Charlie - Tramennis now knows that Charlie is backing her - i.e. she's working for him - rather than the other way around.