Book 2 - Page 86

Book 2 - Page 86
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Housellama wrote:
Was [Stanley] actually popped under King Saline?
Nnelg's explanation is also fairly plausible. That is, the whole point is moot and explained by Erfworlders being loose with their terminology.

Stanley is of the Plaid Tribe, which Saline was leader of, so I'd assume he was popped there as well since the "tribes" of men are something unrelated to side (Example, Wanda is still of Tribe Crotan)
I agree that Erfworlders are likely just loose with Terminology, hence leading to our confusion before we remember Stanley's origins.
drachefly wrote:
bladestorm wrote:
Or it is part of Jojo's trade. Ten rounds of casting would be about the time it takes to pop a royal heir. Unaroyal had a crazy selection of casters, so if you have a Turnamancer modify the turns needed, further rigged by a Carnymancer, all sorts of boopery could go on.


Ten turns is not nearly enough for a royal heir, even with turnamancy. We even have some numbers on this, from Jillian's heir construction, right?


From start to finish, probably not. If the process were most of the way through, it would be possible. The ten rounds was just an indicator that the unit sacrificed would take at least that long to pop, so it wasn't a simple trade of a one-round-to-pop level 1 stabber, or a pop-as-many-in-a-turn-as-you-can-pay-for unit.

Ten rounds of juice is also quite a lot for a Carny to spend on something trivial, so whatever he did was BIG. And we already know Queen Bea was miffed at the concept of this experiment, since she didn't allow the Healomancer to spend a relatively trivial amount of juice to heal her earlier.

Nnelg wrote:
bladestorm wrote:
"Sylvia understood what the blond Warlord was thinking, what she was trying. As funny as this game was in many ways, inside her there was a former Royal who had been there."

I'm pretty sure that's just a poetic way of describing herself before decryption. Jojo would have had to find a way to overcome Duty to have done it the way you say, because sacrificing healthy units -especially a Royal warlord- to save a level one stabber would definitely have been against Queen Bea's wishes.

Besides, Casters have shown time and again to have their own ambitions, and completely willing to not inform their Ruler of such. How much juice has Maggie spent that was not ordered by either Parson or Stanley? Or Bunny spending late-night juice to talk to Ceasar? Delphie? Any predictamancer? Rusty on his foraging mission?
bladestorm wrote:
Ten rounds of juice is also quite a lot for a Carny to spend on something trivial

Where does it say he used up his entire allotment of juice every turn on Sylvia? Or even 10% of his juice every turn?

In fact, we have good reason to believe that Jojo spent only a minor amount of juice keeping Sylvia alive: if the amount he spent was significant, Queen Bea would have ordered him to stop rather than just express her disapproval.


bladestorm wrote:
Besides, Casters have shown time and again to have their own ambitions, and completely willing to not inform their Ruler of such. How much juice has Maggie spent that was not ordered by either Parson or Stanley? Or Bunny spending late-night juice to talk to Ceasar? Delphie? Any predictamancer? Rusty on his foraging mission?

Hm, the Thinkamancers can use juice left over at the end of the turn, we still have no idea how prediction spells (if they are indeed truly spells) actually work, and Faq was just wasting their Shockamancer's juice anyways.

A little free time and juice for personal usage is one thing, secret projects that drain not only the caster's juice, but the kingdom's resources as well are another.
0beron wrote:
Housellama wrote:
re: Lady Sylvia AKA Sylvia the Royal: All units of a Royal Side are Royal. Only Commanders can carry the Royal special, but being Royal is more than a special, it's an inherent part of being on that Side. Sylvia was promoted to Warlord. Even though she was popped as a Stabber, she was a Commander popped by and working for a Royal side. That makes her Royal.

Soooooooo wrong. Royalty/Nobility IS a "special" that makes units better. That is all there is to it. The haughty attitude comes with it, but the stat buff and accompanying "holier than thou" attitude only go to commander units. Wanda for example is referred to as Lady, despite the fact that we KNOW she is not Royal.


Do tell where did you get to the conclusion that Wanda aint royal when her father is the overlord of her side?
:-) wrote:
Do tell where did you get to the conclusion that Wanda aint royal when her father is the overlord of her side?

Because Goodminton wasn't a Royal side?

Wanda's father was Overlord, not King. That means he isn't Royal.
Nnelg wrote:
In fact, we have good reason to believe that Jojo spent only a minor amount of juice keeping Sylvia alive: if the amount he spent was significant, Queen Bea would have ordered him to stop rather than just express her disapproval.


... unless his work would have been low priority. If they were (momentarily) at peace and not even in negotiations, then it might have been displacing, say, scroll-making, which could be within his discretion.
Casters seem to have a lot of discretion about what they spend their own time and juice on, when not specifically directed by their Ruler. Jack could spend all day running simulations for Parson. Sizemore was wasting a lot of time learning Hippiemancy. Ace spent his time making accessories. Lotta leeway when you are a caster. Maybe Jojo's little experiment was classified under a 'hobby'. I'm sure Bea would have had some disapproval of Wanda's hobby as well.
I'm sure she would have, if she had been in any position to find out or for it to matter, yes.
I get the sense that the trade was Sylvia's life in exchange for the life of a Warlord. After all, she got promoted soon afterwards. I also doubt it's lasting immortality, just stalling death and a revive.
(name here) wrote:
I get the sense that the trade was Sylvia's life in exchange for the life of a Warlord. After all, she got promoted soon afterwards. I also doubt it's lasting immortality, just stalling death and a revive.

That would certainly be ironic. Especially now that she's started to get overconfident.