Book 2 - Parson's Klog 4

Book 2 - Parson's Klog 4

On Hacking in Erfworld

Had an interesting discussion with Maggie a few days ago. Didn't feel like writing about it til now, because it was about information security.

So, Charlie hacked the eyebooks. I wasn't too happy about that when it happened in battle, but at least he was up front about it. I mean if I could tap a side's communications like that, I'd probably just shut up and snoop them. He could've sent me a thinkagram, so obviously he wanted me to know he could do that. Why?

I really don't know. Either he was trying to get me to trust him, or he wanted to intimidate me. Maybe both–he's a power gamer. He failed at both, tho.

Anyway the question of just how hacked these things are came up last week. We're assuming he's just tapping the Thinkamancy line when they're used to send and receive. But maybe he's got full admin access to everything, we don't know. I've been using them for all my notes, and I didn't know if that was stupid or not. They're just so easy to use, and the alternative's to write in books from the library with a fuckin quill pen.

I guess the truth is, I don't much care. I have no intention of leading another battle. Wanda's doing fine. Ansom's doing fine. Gobwin Knob doesn't need me. And anyway, all I'm writing about is the crazy shit Jack and I are trying in the battle room. Who cares about that?

Well, maybe Charlie would. Maybe I shouldn't give him any ideas.

But last week I wanted to write something personal.

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Something I didn‘t want Charlie reading. And it made me ask Jack what he thought about the security of eyebooks, since he created them in the link with Maggie and Misty. He said he could barely remember doing it. I don‘t think he likes to think about the link-up. It messed him up like hard drugs.

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So I asked Maggie, and she immediately got weird about it. Had like a twinkle in her eye, like she‘d been waiting for me to ask this question. We talked about Charlie‘s hack, which took her by surprise. She didn‘t really know how the books work, either. I guess you forget a lot of what happens in a link-up, like your brain can‘t think in 4 dimensions anymore or something.

I asked both of them if they‘d be willing to link up again and check out the books for security holes. They were actually both really interested in doing it. They did that yesterday, and came out of the link just fine. Maggie said she didn‘t think they‘d been compromised, but maybe Charlie had tried. She made some changes. She said, “It was the right sort of question to ask.”

Jack, on the other hand, did something amazing to this thing. Now I can project 3-D models with it, instead of having to describe them to him. It‘s not quite the old battle map, but the strategy sessions go even better now.

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The problem with evaluating the table-trimancer setup is that we don't know what Misty was capable of on her own, so we don't have anything to compare it to.

However, I'd tend to say that it was a waste of Jack's capabilities. They were still getting Maggie and Misty's benefits, but Jack is overwhelmingly competent at what he does and wasn't able to contribute at all except as a battery.

More to the point, as others have said: Prior to Parson, nobody in Gobwin Knob was a good enough strategist to use the information from the table properly. So no matter how good it was in theory, it was a waste in practice. Even once Parson arrived, he was able to accomplish more with Maggie available to arrange however he pleased than with her bound up in the table (and he probably could have done even more if he'd had Jack available as an individual right from the start.)

I'm inclined to say that however limited Misty was on her own (and however useful the Eyebooks are), it was probably enough, in the hands of a competent strategist, to be worth keeping Jack available for his own stuff.
Well Jack was a bit more than a battery, his job in the link was to project the info onto the table. Actually it's hard to tell overall which was better. Parson did get some good mileage out the old buffed table.
the_tick_rules wrote:
Well Jack was a bit more than a battery, his job in the link was to project the info onto the table. Actually it's hard to tell overall which was better. Parson did get some good mileage out the old buffed table.


Yep. To use the spy satellite analogy. Having a satellite on its own is no good. You need a comms link and interactive graphical display for really good data transfer.
Misty on her own provided all 3 to some degree but the difference would be like the difference between operating an early radar setup where the operator (Misty) has to interpret various spikes and waves and relay their meaning to the commander (Parson). Meaning that much info that Parson might consider important isn't relayed because Misty doesn't consider it as important ( Fog -of-war) And having the table where the commander can see all details at hand and can have minor details influence his strategy & tactics. if all 3 are linked the data transfer is all pervasive. On their own they are just not as effective
On this point: Are we considering if the table alone was worth allocating three casters to, or if the linkup was worth it?

For me, if I could suspend the ethics involved, I'd link em in a heart beat and have em churning out magic items as often as possible - imagine the sorts of lookamancy and foolamancy items you could produce for your scouts and warlords? Just look at how buffed Slately is, with one turns worth of juice from one caster...

Aside from items, of course, there's also spells... If a link can cast Kingworld, uncroak the volcano, or summon the perfect warlord.. what kind of game-altering mass-foolamancy could Jack produce? I imagine whole hex's being duped into attacking themselves before they even reach GK...

That is, if I could suspend the ethics. In actual fact I'd probably find the whole thing way to creepy to go near.

Regardless of that, though, its kinda fun to think up items and spells, given the range of power we've seen in past linkups...
the_tick_rules wrote:
Well Jack was a bit more than a battery, his job in the link was to project the info onto the table. Actually it's hard to tell overall which was better. Parson did get some good mileage out the old buffed table.

The eyebooks needed him, the data output needed him, he may have provided passive anti-foolamancy, and he may have provided some other sort of help. (In addition to extra juice, maybe his high level helped, or the part of foolamancy that comes from seeing what is really there helped Misty get a clear view of things that would normally have been to far away.)
The Truth About Parson

"I wanted to write something personal. Something I did not want Charlie reading."

What was that?

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"I said Not to mention unspeakable"

Another reference to keeping secret/not speaking or allowing others to read. Why?

Notice the context:

In a desperate final struggle for survival...

a) between all that is noble [royal] and decent...

and

b) and all that is vile and unholy, not to mention unspeakable.


Parson is a "powergamer", obsessed with gaining power rather than fighting for a noble royal cause. Killing others is a "game" for him. He has sold himself to the demons for their promises of power, and now he helps them with dark evil perverted ideas and incantations.

So obviously Parson once again now wants to write about "all that is vile and unholy". Perhaps it is just ways to torture others and/or turn them into undead abominations or to brainwash a hapless ruler like his evil minions Wanda and Maggie. Or perhaps it is some more sinister blasphemy such as dirty "Titan porn", or slandering the righteous cause of the Royals.

Whatever it is, it is vile and unholy. That is why Parson is untrustable, we need to get rid of him, banish the demon spawn back from to his demon world. Before it is too late. Before he turns the magic kingdom and all of erfworld into death and destruction and a lurking place of demon spawn where no royal goodness is left.

Thank-you.
Smoker wrote:

Aside from items, of course, there's also spells... If a link can cast Kingworld, uncroak the volcano, or summon the perfect warlord.. what kind of game-altering mass-foolamancy could Jack produce? I imagine whole hex's being duped into attacking themselves before they even reach GK...

Foolamancy+signamancy. Signamancy is about showing things as they are. Foolamancy is about making fake images. I'm thinking, the illusions are now real. Someone is veiled as a cloud? Your arrows go through them. Those diversion beasts? You figured out they were fake? Oh, look now they are tearing your guts out. Jack casts mirror image on the army? You try to figure out what is real? ALL OF THEM
Lamech wrote:
Foolamancy+signamancy. Signamancy is about showing things as they are. Foolamancy is about making fake images. I'm thinking, the illusions are now real. Someone is veiled as a cloud? Your arrows go through them. Those diversion beasts? You figured out they were fake? Oh, look now they are tearing your guts out. Jack casts mirror image on the army? You try to figure out what is real? ALL OF THEM

That sound to me like Carnymancy, Weirdomancy and Retconjuration.

Signomancer all we know is "nicest looking capitals" so far and natural signomancy seems to have affect on moral. Foolomancy+signomancy might be able to make a good ruler look bad or a servant look good as a way of causing revolt/civil war/betrayal, etc to destroy a kingdom from within or makes enemy units turn/defect to your side. (If Wanda can defect in middle of battle, possible much of army could be induced to do so)

In fiction we have example of Macbeth where a sign helped cause a revolt, in Erfworld it is possible that covert signomancy helped foster the rebel ambitions in TV by Don's children.
multilis wrote:
Lamech wrote:
Foolamancy+signamancy. Signamancy is about showing things as they are. Foolamancy is about making fake images. I'm thinking, the illusions are now real. Someone is veiled as a cloud? Your arrows go through them. Those diversion beasts? You figured out they were fake? Oh, look now they are tearing your guts out. Jack casts mirror image on the army? You try to figure out what is real? ALL OF THEM

That sound to me like Carnymancy, Weirdomancy and Retconjuration.

Signomancer all we know is "nicest looking capitals" so far and natural signomancy seems to have affect on moral. Foolomancy+signomancy might be able to make a good ruler look bad or a servant look good as a way of causing revolt/civil war/betrayal, etc to destroy a kingdom from within or makes enemy units turn/defect to your side. (If Wanda can defect in middle of battle, possible much of army could be induced to do so)

In fiction we have example of Macbeth where a sign helped cause a revolt, in Erfworld it is possible that covert signomancy helped foster the rebel ambitions in TV by Don's children.

Natural signamancy is also the natural magic that makes people look like what they are. Warlords who sit around and manage a city, but don't ready for battle become pudgy. Warlords (like Artemis) who are constantly training become tough and strong looking. When Jillian became queen signomancy made her look like a queen. Natural signamancy is what tell casters which portal to return to in the MK. It shows what things are. What if you could fool that? Also if signamancy tells units what they should be doing in battle (don't stab the guy next to you, stab the guy in front), changing that would be a nasty combo.
Aquillion wrote:
More to the point, as others have said: Prior to Parson, nobody in Gobwin Knob was a good enough strategist to use the information from the table properly. So no matter how good it was in theory, it was a waste in practice.
Werebiscuit wrote:
Having a satellite on its own is no good. You need a comms link and interactive graphical display for really good data transfer.
Several people have spoken about the table being limited by requiring Maggie for two way communications. I disagree. Stanley was able to use the table to order his troops, without those troops having any need to know the entire battlespace situation. Stanley used this to capture Jillian, remember.

And yes, Stanley is an idiot and randomly moved units around on a post-trimancer table. But that doesn't take away from the potential of the table, without requiring that it operate as a conference call of all GK forces.