Prologue - 016

Prologue - 016

Turns since TBfGK: 18

The Signs were all over her. It was interesting to see. Her hair was just a little longer every turn. Her cheeks were just a bit rounder. She was losing muscle tone, but acquiring a grace in her posture.

It gave Vinny some hope that she wouldn't croak him when she understood what he was asking.

He'd never actually seen anyone before and after they became a Ruler. Like anything, it changed you. The Signamancers claimed that all Stuff was Foolamancy. Our bodies and all the things we see and touch were supposed to only be Signs: symbols of their true nature. Vinny didn't know about all that, but a person's appearance was definitely a Sign. It told you how they think about themselves. And how others see them.

Nothing changes those things so suddenly and drastically as taking the throne. She was fighting it. She was denying it. But Queen Jillian was becoming more mature, more of a monarch every day. Can't hide the Signs.

There was no way she was ready for what the Big Boss wanted, though. He'd fought Don on this one, right up to the point where Don suggested he could be replaced as liaison to Faq. Then Vinny shrugged, and resigned himself. This was going to wreck whatever good thing he and Jillian had going.

When the call from Don ended, he'd been in Kibo. He had planned to spend a few turns managing the city, to make himself useful. But he broke off his rounds there, and headed up the river valley toward Faq.

The farms were boring. Kibo and Otoh were boring, too. Dumpy Level Twos that looked like glorified farms themselves. Only the capital was not boring.

When they'd arrived, Jillian had asked Vinny what he thought about maybe naming the new capital and side "Ansom." After thinking it over, he told her he thought the Prince would have been flattered, but that he would've had a big problem with her being the "Queen of Ansom." Lacking any other ideas, she claimed the ruins and called the city Faq again.

But the failure of imagination did not apply to her vision for the city itself. Transylvito had sent her enough gems to rebuild the kingdom, on top of loaning her Vinny and a small stack of Goyles and Skanks. Faq was now a solid Level Four, and not like any city Vinny had ever seen.

It was circular, sharp, and shining.

The outer walls looked impressive from a distance. But they were an afterthought, worse against a siege than Transylvito's. They consisted of a ring of stone teeth with a reflective coating of tin, inward-curving towers that terminated in sharp points, connected by a web of steel piping and sheeting. There was no gate. Vinny simply flew between these pillars and entered the city. A horn somewhere announced him as an arriving allied unit.

Inside, the whole city was geared up to defend against attack from above. Towers and buildings all had spiked metallic domes for roofs, looking like a forest of war mushrooms or something.

At the center of the garrison rose a tower constructed with all the ferocity of Jillian's imagination. It was shaped something like a white marble palm tree. The trunk was a twist of six massive columns, tapering slightly as they reached straight upward. The top of the tower was a miniature fortress, a bristle of glass and hard spikes, with ledges and platforms where many dozens of flyers could land, or hundreds of defenders could lurk. Vinny flew between the perches and platforms, and entered the tower.

The inside of the tower was all business. Defensive engines in various states of assembly were stacked in narrow hallways of marble. Faq didn't yet have the units to man them. Vinny followed the twisted passage to the chamber that served both as Jillian's War Room and her Throne Room. Two Stabbers in silver and white Faq livery saluted him as he entered. A Royal guard of only two. Not even Knights yet.

And there she was, a queen in armor. She was looking over a set of charts on a cluttered table with her only warlord, a plain level 1 named Dave or Danny or something. He looked confused, and she looked angry.

She glanced up at Vinny, relieved to see him. That wouldn't last.

He knew what kind of pressure she was under. Spotty reports said Stanley was somehow conquering every city he could reach. How were they going to stop him? Faq was pathetic; it needed everything. It needed all three cities popping everything as fast as possible.

Only now he was going to have to tell her Don King wanted her to dedicate the next 60 turns of her capital city's production to pop a Royal heir.

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it does seem somewhat arbitrary. dwagins maybe becuase they are an arkenhammer unit. but this also confuses the question as archons , MAY, be an arkendish unit. i'm inclined to believe they aren't. so far i think only stanley's tool adds units to the construction lists. archons are probably a natural unit of charlescomm, and archon knights probably defend his hex.

update 39 alludes to the idea more units of charlescomm may exist we are not aware of yet. charlesnchrg never specifically says his archons were killed only that his units in gk battlespace were defeated by three archons. his units at the time may have been bats doing routine surveilance for all we know. hell charlescomm may even have carrier pigeons as units.
I wouldn't be surprised if charlies archons aren't made similarly to the decrypted units, taking a popped unit and "upgrading" it rather than building one from scratch...

The arkentools seem to have 3 things they can do: an "if it's used as a weapon" effect (van de graff/uncroaked to dust) an "Upgrading effect" (Rock Out, Supa Thinkamancy, Decrypted benefits) and a "specialty tamed unit" (Archons?, Dwagons, and Decrypted) everything else seems to just be the abnormal warping of reality they cause
Cmdr I. Heartly Noah wrote:
moose o death wrote:
the uncroaked angle
it would seem wanda could only uncroak units stanley could command based on his cities etc, but like i said earlier this theory gets dashed because wanda does uncroak one or more archons. so while she can't uncroak weiner rammers or other units of the sort she could decrypt archons...my only other place to go from this point is to say she could only uncroak infantry units. but do warlords count as infantry?


Well, she uncroaked warlords, archons, and unipegataurs. So we know she could uncroak fliers, mounts, and commanders. I think the only thing we know she could not uncroak is a weiner-rammer. Could she uncroak a dwagon? I don't remember any... though perhaps they required too much juice to be useful? With the dwagons gone, the archons and unipegataur were more valuable than normal and therefore worth as much juice as she could spare. Then again, I don't think we saw any uncroaked spiders or twolls either. Perhaps she was just too busy? Not worth the upkeep?

I'm guessing there's just a list of uncroakable units, perhaps somewhat arbitrary. I doubt she could uncroak a vampire or golem, but I wonder why weiner-rammers were non-uncroakable? It can't be their status as a mount - perhaps their status as a siege weapon?


My guess was simply that she could only uncroak "humanoid" units. It's a bit simplistic, but the least human thing ever rezzed was a unipegitaur, and that still has a human torso, so i'd like to think that the theory holds together.
Cmdr I. Heartly Noah wrote:
balancing regarding their effectiveness/value, or another, equally powerful force out there? Because I don't see any kind of weakness in a situation where getting your own men killed is valuable. The only possible negatives of decrypting are a) levelling further becomes impossible or b) some force out there (tool, magic) can cut through decrypted wholesale.


Another option is that they are a single point of failure. Maybe, they start to decay if the side loses the Arkenpliers or are automatically loyal to the wielder of the Arkenpliers.

The effectiveness of the strike force is massively dependent on Wanda. It isn't entirely a disadvantage, but it means that to get one of the benefits of the pliers, the wielder has to be put at risk. For it to be a disadvantage, there would need to be a penalty if Wanda isn't nearby.

The hammer probably is similar if it gives a bonus to dwagons.
SteveMB wrote:
Yosarian wrote:
DevilDan wrote:
Actually, a decapitation strike would end the whole problem: GK units in the field disband, I believe.


Actually, I donno about that. Jillian didn't.


That's because she was the heir to Faq. Stanley has no heir, so taking him out would make the GK side "neutral" (i.e. easy pickings).


Very true. That might be part of it. Of course, that wasn't a matter of "ruler dies, heir takes over side", it was more like "entire side gets wiped out, unit in the field (that contained a heir) goes barbarian." I'm not sure if it's because of the heir or not.

We do know that normally, if the ruler of a city dies with no hair, all units in a city go "neutral" and basically are frozen in time. I don't think we know what happens to units in the field at the time, nor do we know what happens to units in the field if their home side gets wiped out; I don't think we've seen any examples of that other then Jillian.
Cmdr I. Heartly Noah wrote:

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the decrpted angle
wanda now seems to be able to decrypt any and all fallen units to full ability, the don't degrade and have zero upkeep. however traditional game logic indicates there is a balancing device we haven't been shown yet.
the the laws of thermodynamics from earthworld certainly back that theory up.


balancing regarding their effectiveness/value, or another, equally powerful force out there? Because I don't see any kind of weakness in a situation where getting your own men killed is valuable. The only possible negatives of decrypting are a) levelling further becomes impossible or b) some force out there (tool, magic) can cut through decrypted wholesale.


Well, there certainly are disadvantages to having uncroaked units instead of living units, mostly that they decay over time. It may be that the powerful artifact she has just removes all those disadvantages by creating decrypted units instead. We haven't seen any sign that from any practical point of view decrypted units have ANY disadvantages over living units, and they seem to have at least two advantages (Zero upkeep, and I would guess a very, very high loyalty.)

I don't know why you would assume that an artifact is balanced. An artifact is an ancient, incredibly powerful item created by the Titans themselves; normally in fantasy, artifacts like that are just inherently unbalancing objects, usually in a very fundimental way. Think of, say, the Horn of Valere in the Wheel of Time; you blow it, and an army of long-dead heroes comes out of nowhere and wins a battle for you, with no real cost at all.
Yosarian wrote:

Very true. That might be part of it. Of course, that wasn't a matter of "ruler dies, heir takes over side", it was more like "entire side gets wiped out, unit in the field (that contained a heir) goes barbarian." I'm not sure if it's because of the heir or not.


It could also have been ruler dies -> Jillian becomes Queen -> City Falls -> Jillian become barbarian as she lost all of her cities.

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I don't think we know what happens to units in the field at the time, nor do we know what happens to units in the field if their home side gets wiped out; I don't think we've seen any examples of that other then Jillian.


They disband according to Parson in one of the klogs.

Yosarian wrote:

Well, there certainly are disadvantages to having uncroaked units instead of living units, mostly that they decay over time. It may be that the powerful artifact she has just removes all those disadvantages by creating decrypted units instead. We haven't seen any sign that from any practical point of view decrypted units have ANY disadvantages over living units, and they seem to have at least two advantages (Zero upkeep, and I would guess a very, very high loyalty.)


The loyalty is probably to the wielder and not to the side. The disadvantage could be that it increases the chances of the side splitting and also represents a single point of failure.

Perhaps, as Wanda is worshipped by more units, the lower her (already very low) loyalty stat is adjusted.
I made an artistic interpretation of this strip. What should I do with it, I can't seem to figure out where everyone is sending their guest art... Or is it reserved for Tools or something?
guest art was commisioned

i was tactfully rejected. or at least have been to this point. there is some small hope but i'm fairly confident i will not be asked to contribute. best case scenario you could PM balder and see if he's up for it.
XACBalistikX wrote:
I made an artistic interpretation of this strip. What should I do with it, I can't seem to figure out where everyone is sending their guest art... Or is it reserved for Tools or something?

Good on you, man. Go for it. PM him and send a link to your art. The worse he can say is "no, thanks." If he likes it, he may keep you in mind for the future.