Book 2 - Page 56

Book 2 - Page 56
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kagato23 wrote:
Swodaems wrote:
GK has already decrypted a unit that knows about the TV Faq connection Tv is not going to be able to come out of this squeeky clean if Faq goes down.
{HUGE SNIP} So without actually being given the pieces, I doubt Parson can put together the puzzle. {/HUGE SNIP}
And Jack decided not to share any of this with Parson because...?

I'm going to, very loosely, compare Don King's strategy for Transylvito to America in World War II... The Axis' Powers-That-Be (GK) knew America (TV) was part of the Allied forces, yet while America (TV) was content to support from afar, there was no real 'need' for the Axis (GK) deal with them. I know it's flawed; the Japanese Oil Embargo/Pearl Harbor, blah blah blah. It's an example; don't pick it apart. Just try to understand what I'm trying to say and work from there.

As far as the whole 'diminishing shmucker' point, I think Parson was (half-)lying to Charlie. Although there's an obvious cost for supporting so many thousands of troops, Gobwin Knob has the power to kill/Decrypt their own units. Parson would find that appalling/barbaric, of course...but if it even started to near the point where they'd start losing cities/the war/Parson himself being brutally sentenced to death for his heinous war-crimes, I think he'd take one for the team and start having units decrypted.

As is, though, I don't think Gobwin Knob has reached the point where such tactics are a necessity. I mean, geeze, they're fighting a conflict in the west (which we can guesstimate is roughly one quarter of the world) and the best strategic minds we've seen so far have only taken out one-and-a-half of the, what, dozen sides near by? If they're already reaching the point where they can no longer expand, then the Titans never intended for a side to emerge victorious.

Blarg. There's a lot of other stuff I'm missing, but I just really wanted to make a post before heading to bed... I've yet to cast my vote as to whether or not Don King is a moron. I'd like to think he isn't, but I'm seeing some compelling arguments on both sides. I'm just gonna wait and see on that one.
Lamech wrote:
Oberon wrote:
You still haven't been reading the same comic. GK wants allies. They need allies. They are at some kind of limited returns point where they simply cannot build their side much larger. (I won't pretend to understand this when the decrypted have zero upkeep, but this is what Parson said) They need allies or their momentum stalls. If GK was willing to ally with Jetstone (and they were), the architects of not one but two royal coalitions with the stated goal of the death of Stanley and the destruction of the GK side, then surely they can overlook some funds going from one member of the RCCII to another member of the RCCII, no matter what the reason. And that's assuming that reason ever comes to light, which I doubt it would or could.
Its highly possible that Parson was straight up lying or implying something deceptive. Charlie doesn't know that decrypted have no upkeep cost. Its possible on-lookers would conclude that GK had a "diminishing shmucker point" as the result of getting ruined cities and large numbers of units. Or that GK would be running up against the diminishing shmucker point when really there a few thousand units short of having that problem.

We also don't know how harsh it is. It may max out at a certain point. Say... when you have new cities get a 50% reduced income. Or something similar.


Probably what Parson means is the more allies they have the faster they can recoup losses, currently GK cities can either pop normal man units like pikers and archers, or dwagons by spending several turns. However if they're allied with some kind of neutral tribe those can pop units for GK on their own. Currently they only have a single hobgobwin tribe left and a few twoll tribes so each turn they can only pop about a dozen or so units. If their army suffers huge losses like it did at exposition bridge it will take them a few turns to get back to that strength even with decryption. Added, both Stanley and Parson seem to have agreed that it isn't a good thing for the majority of their army to be made up of decrypted units that are loyal only to Wanda. They want a sizeable force of twolls, hobgobwins, dwagons and normal men to keep them in check in the event of Wanda going completely mad.

My theory is TV, under Ceasar, will ally with GK. Ceasar sees GK as a threat but a meeting with Parson would likely make him see that they aren't evil or deranged. However Ceasar -HATES- Jillian and FAQ, it's not a stretch to see him ally with GK on the grounds that A. TV gets the FAQ cities, B. Ceasar gets to be in the main force that goes after Jillian. With the Fall of Jillian the main focus will most likely switch to Charlie who, while everyone was busy at each other's throats, has amassed a huge army of archons and strong armed sides and tribes to try and "correct" Erfworld. That will cue the dramatic return of Trammenis and his jetpack gun toting roman legions.
Atomic wrote:
kagato23 wrote:
{HUGE SNIP} So without actually being given the pieces, I doubt Parson can put together the puzzle. {/HUGE SNIP}
And Jack decided not to share any of this with Parson because...?


Atomic, I'm a bit confused here. How would Jack know? I agree that if anybody would be able to voice suspicions to Parson and help him see the unseen hand in things, Jack would be perfect. But he was a member of FAQ long before TV was involved. Now, I would put him down as the person that is second most likely to figure things out, but he's lacking the same information Parson is: just because he's near the people that could possible provide some of the pieces of my metaphorical puzzle doesn't mean that he has been given the relevant data.

The only way I could even see this start is if they found Don's bat, and started wondering what it was doing there. But I can't figure out what Jack would have to share right now. Other then "Warlord Lazarus is a rather rude woman." :P Which is too bad, cause she's obviously in awe of Parson and Scarlet X Parson is my OTP*

*No it's not. That's obviously Jack X Trem
Ahem. Slately X Stanley.

C'mon. You know you wanna.
BLANDCorporatio wrote:
Ahem. Slately X Stanley.

C'mon. You know you wanna.

MY MIND CAN NOT UNTHINK.
Atomic wrote:
If they're already reaching the point where they can no longer expand, then the Titans never intended for a side to emerge victorious.


...hence GK's declared goal of a world-wide alliance, which must be the other way to win.
Chit Rule Railroad wrote:
Atomic wrote:
If they're already reaching the point where they can no longer expand, then the Titans never intended for a side to emerge victorious.


...hence GK's declared goal of a world-wide alliance, which must be the other way to win.

Or Parson needs to do more research into money making gambits
BLANDCorporatio wrote:
Ahem. Slately X Stanley.

C'mon. You know you wanna.


This is now my new OTP.

WHY CAN'T ALL OF YOU SEEEEEEE
Discussions get really crazy after the first few pages...

My two cents is that i think Don has more going on than we, Caesar, or anyone else knows about. My guess is he has more motives to keeping Slately's side alive than just good ol' "royal" values. Either Slately's side, or maybe even Tram in specific. I have no idea what it is, but i think Don has a plan, and everyone on his side thinks he is crazy because no one knows what it is. The fact that they have followed him this far shows they trust him, but unless he reveals more soon then the doubts will take their toll.
Catalyst wrote:
I have no idea what it is, but i think Don has a plan, and everyone on his side thinks he is crazy because no one knows what it is. The fact that they have followed him this far shows they trust him, but unless he reveals more soon then the doubts will take their toll.
I find myself in complete agreement with this statement.