Book 2 - Text Updates 037

Book 2 - Text Updates 037

Janis held up the edge of her cotton frock as she hurried along the trail. The loose, airy arrangement of wide-boled trees around the Hippiemancer Glade rapidly gave way to a dense and obscuring screen of thin, straight trunks. A solid canopy of sun-greedy leaves made the trail gloomy and the air still. She passed no-one along the way. From above, the calls of unseen birds rang out danger, rang out a warning.

It wasn't so much that she needed to give Marie the word. Bringing news to a Predictamancer was a laugh, usually.

It was that they'd need to decide what to do next. Parson Gotti was not only back in command, but back as chief warlord. This moment had been so long in coming that it had lost the buzz of anticipation. Marie had said this battle would be "a point of turning of all turns," which Janis couldn't quite dig. But a lot of what Marie said was like that.

So despite that heads-up, Janis had felt no real urgency this morning. The idea of the "perfect warlord" had become just a concept. It had started to seem almost crazy, right up to the very moment when Sizemore confirmed there'd been a change in command.

Now it was totally real. The bowstring had been drawn back, the arrow nocked, and the aim put upon the heart of the world.

So, like, what should they do now?

Marie would know. At the roots of it, this was her plan. "What Hippiemancy neeeeds, Jonnis my true friend, is da one thin it con't evah have. A warlord. A souljah!"

It must have taken thirty turns before Marie had wrapped Janis' head around the idea of a warlord who would fight against war itself, and another twenty before she could imagine one who might be good enough to win.

So they'd made it happen, without fuss, without hassles, and in secret. Janis had connections. She was listened to. Thanks to her, they pulled off the link-up without giving away the real aim. The Predictamancers all knew, of course. The Thinkamancers only sort of thought they knew. Hubble (the Lookamancer in the link-up) knew, but he was no trouble. And Janis knew.

And...Wanda knew.

After the spell was made, Marie called the shots from there. A lot of what she had said and done so far had troubled Janis. She was trying not to get uptight about the way this was all playing out, but the choice of Wanda had bugged her from the start.

"No she's really da one, I Predict it Jonnis," Marie told her whenever she had doubted. "It's Fate, my excellent friend. You don't fight Fate, you help it!"

Janis understood the Fate axis of magic, as she did the Erf and Numbers axes. But Hippiemancy is people magic, and Janis also had a heavy understanding about relationships. She could see Marie was hung up on Wanda in a big way. And for all her bubbly confidence and huge toothy smiles, Marie was hurting.

Because it's no shame to live in the Magic Kingdom, unless you are a Predictamancer.

Marie, of course, had told her many times that she had Predicted the fall of her side, the kingdom where she and Wanda had served. But when it came to explaining how the fall had happened, how she and Wanda both had escaped destruction in different ways, she wouldn't budge.

"It all got cloudy," was all she would really say. "It happens. I saw it would come and I wonned my Rulah. But when it came it all got cloudy, I don't know."

So she insisted on placing the spell with Wanda, a loveless woman from a hopeless side. There were "unfinished Predictions" hanging on her, Marie said. Janis thought it was Marie who had the unfinished business, had something to prove.

But Marie was right.

Janis didn't want to think how right, or about what Wanda's attunement to the Arkenpliers might mean in the big picture. And she really didn't want to think about what Wanda was out there doing with them. If there was an opposite to Hippiemancy, Wanda was--

Green up ahead, and not trees. "Jonnis!" Around the trail's bend, Marie in her green and yellow silks, open armed, rushing to take Janis' hands, kiss her cheeks. She looked...totally jazzed.

Janis looked at her urgently. "Marie! Parson Gotti is Chief again. Sizemore Rockwell told me--"

"I know, I know Jonnis! It's wondahful! But we have to hurray. Come on." Holding one of Janis' hands, she pulled her up the trail in the direction she had come from.

"I thought you might want to speak to Sizemore first," she said, letting go of Marie's hand and following along, "I left him waiting..."

"No, Sizemore has gone to Portal Park," said Marie definitively, and cheerfully. "And thot's where we will go too! And why?"

She turned her head around to flash Janis a grin, and stage-whispered, "He's coming back!"

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Sylvan wrote:
(And I just want to say I understand the "more powerful scroll requires some sort of appropriate caster" thing is just a theory, and we have seen Sizemore [and Jack!, and probably Maggie!] with out-of-discipline scrolls. But we haven't seen them with the equivalent of one that would say, mass animate every croaked unit in a given hex, whereas we have seen Wanda with an especially powerful scroll, and we know that she hated it.)


The summoning is the one example we have of of an out-of-specialty caster using a powerful spell from a scroll. Wanda tried to convince Stanley not to make her do it -- admittedly, we don't know how much of that was genuine concern that it wouldn't work right and how much was annoyance at being pushed out of her preferred field. Also, given that we only have hints about a hidden agenda behind the creation of the summoning spell, we don't really know whether it did go somewhat off the tracks or whether it worked exactly as planned.
Mostly a lurker but this conversation is captivating.

From all the statements above I am tempted to believe that the idea of the linkup is that a Thinkamancer subsumes the power and individuality of the other two casters into their own and effectively dominates the link in order to use the juice of the other two casters simultaneously creating effects otherwise impossible. I think of it like this: Thinkamancers are extremely strong willed and use that will to create the Tri-link. Effectively forcing their own will upon the other casters, they may be willing participants; but, they are giving into the will of a Thinkamancer. This is how they participate in the link more than any other. I could not see many links in which you would need a Thinkamancer, save for the eye books where you would want the books to read the minds of those with the books.

Now, a link could be based on one of two limitations: 1) A strict limitation of 2 based strictly on how magic works. or 2) Based on the number of personalities a Thinkamancer is willing to subsume into his own. If the limitation is based on the willpower of the Thinkamancer and the personalities of those participating, then it would not be unthinkable for a Master Class Thinkamancer to absorb more than 2 others as long as they were adepts in their field. This could allow for very complex spells, but would be limiting in that the power from any other caster would be minimal. Further, these types of links could be very dangerous to all participants when they are dissolved. In which it would likely kill everyone but the Thinkamancer as it would be too complex for the adepts to come back from that amount of power being wielded and the Thinkamancer would need all of their own power to keep themselves sane and not bother with putting the other minds back together. However, this would also beg the question what would happen if a Thinkamancer would try to connect those of greater power then themselves? Is there where the danger of linking resides?

If there is a strict limit of 2, it would seem that there is one distinct possibility to get around this limit: A Tri-link of three Thinkamancers. Would not this link be able to link two other links? Create 3 Tri-links, Dirt + Think + Doll, Think + Think + Think, Ditto + Think + Turn. Then allow the triple Thinkamancers to create a link between the two links. Now you have a 9 Caster link (requiring 5 to be Thinkamancers) that could theoretically produce an almost limitless number of golums. Never actually breaking the strict limit of two. However, could 3 Thinkamancers link? Would they then be one all-powerful Thinkamancer that could link two other links?
Smoker wrote:

Nothing is impossible, but I'd be very surprised if this was the case. I mean, since Linking is so powerful and seems to be a function of ONLY the thinkamancers, you'd think they would have experimented with it the most. So link-ups of solely thinkamancers (in all sorts of numbers) should have been attempted.

I know we accept the Erfworlders as people who generally do not test the limits of their universe, but the MK is an environment where they spend turns and turns dicussing the theory of magic. They must have tried.


Ok, first of all Linking is dangerous. So thinkamancers aren't just going to link up without some worthwhile goal commensurate with the potential loss of life. And second of all, there is a summer update somewhere where Sizemore noticed how alien the concept of testing a concept is. The point of that update is ALL the casters do is sit around discussing, they never test. They certainly aren't going to link three thinkamancers in order to "see what happens." Parson is the only person in the history of Erf that has a "do it and see what happens" attitude.
Infidel wrote:
Smoker wrote:

Nothing is impossible, but I'd be very surprised if this was the case. I mean, since Linking is so powerful and seems to be a function of ONLY the thinkamancers, you'd think they would have experimented with it the most. So link-ups of solely thinkamancers (in all sorts of numbers) should have been attempted.

I know we accept the Erfworlders as people who generally do not test the limits of their universe, but the MK is an environment where they spend turns and turns dicussing the theory of magic. They must have tried.


Ok, first of all Linking is dangerous. So thinkamancers aren't just going to link up without some worthwhile goal commensurate with the potential loss of life. And second of all, there is a summer update somewhere where Sizemore noticed how alien the concept of testing a concept is. The point of that update is ALL the casters do is sit around discussing, they never test. They certainly aren't going to link three thinkamancers in order to "see what happens." Parson is the only person in the history of Erf that has a "do it and see what happens" attitude.


The SPW Spell was a new creation, (which, by the way, involved a link). This is hard evidence that the MK does more than just talk. They are perfectly willing and able to put their theories to the.. ahem.. Test.
SPW was more than just testing a theory, it was a concrete attempt to change the Fate of the entire world. It wasn't done just to see if it could be done.
nth wrote:


It reminds me of speculations that Parson is going to turn out to be the bad guy, after all...



*turn out* to be the bad guy?

For now, he IS the bad guy. He's leading the undead armies of an egomaniacal lord bent on world conquest.
Smoker wrote:
The SPW Spell was a new creation, (which, by the way, involved a link). This is hard evidence that the MK does more than just talk. They are perfectly willing and able to put their theories to the.. ahem.. Test.

It's not a test if you're just following what a Predictamancer told you to do. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. :D
Dr Pepper wrote:
How many rules must a warlord break
Before he can finally break war?
How many units must croak in his wake
Until no one croaks anymore?

How many quests must a Tool undertake
To gain some legitimacy?
Of how many tests must two lovers partake
Before they can let themselves be?

The answers, dear fans
Are in the Titans' hands
The answers are in the Titans' hands


*standing ovation* That makes me want to add my own verses, but I think I wouldn't do it justice.

On another, why do I get the impression that Wanda used that powder (the stuff she used on the hobgobwin) on Marie to get her out of Faq? It seems to fit, in that Marie doesn't remember anything about how she got out. If that was indeed true, one might wonder why.

Okay, maybe just _I_ would wonder why :D

Vorteks wrote:
Raza wrote:
Did they select Parson in advance, specifically? The update talks about something the casters don't know or are willing to keep hidden, but it's not clear to me how exactly the 'real aim' deviates from the spell's stated purpose in execution.


My guess is that Parson wasn't specifically selected from the beginning. If he was, then it's an incredible coincidence that he met the Tool's requirements so well. "Someone who plans and kills his foes for fun" "snacks on Gwiffons and eats Marbits for breakfast" "everything should seem familiar and safe to him" "make him BIG" (book 1, page 17).


My take on this would be to hypothesize that the spell added requirements as well.

Stanley: "Who plans and kills for fun", "Snacks on marbits, ..."
Janis: "Who knows the stats and what they mean, but doesn't see us as just units"
Stanley: "Everything should seem familiar and safe to him"
Janis: "And yet horribly wrong."

Parson was the one who most closely fit both sets of requirements.
Wat lookamancer? I'm sure Wanda said it was a findamacer in the link...
GrayMatter wrote:
Wat lookamancer? I'm sure Wanda said it was a findamacer in the link...


5 year necropost. Nice. Since you have no quote, no idea who you're replying to either.